well, today i sit down with a sculptor, intellectual and philosopher, sir anthony quirley. antony gormley. it's great to have you on our show today, lucy, to, for you to well, i was by saying that, you know, we're not like a program that specializes in art or sculpture. we go to see big visionaries from different fields just to pretty much talk about life. so hopefully that's what we're gonna do today. good news, i look forward. okay. so when i look at what you do, you aspire to make audiences really think white. not narrow, but then you've chosen such a personal thing body to make people think about things that are really out there. why? body wise, why the most personal thing in the world? because we all live inside work and i just wanted to start with the only thing that i could really be certain off, which is that yeah, i exist. i exist in a place that we call a body. and i guess there's so many illusions about the body that we call it my body. but of course it has its own agenda. it's part of a bigger system. and i think just to start with the intimate but also the thing that is commo