i talked to all of anwar al awlaki's siblings. he was a guy who after 9/11 was an imam at a big moss income virginia and was a go-to imam, profiled by "the washington post." he probably would have been on your show if you were on at the time. and pr, pbs, across the board, and was a guy that really seemed to be struggle with how muslims should respond to 9/11. but says the u.s. has the right to hunt those responsible for 9/11, condemn the attacks, said that al qaeda had perverted islam. but you saw a radicalization that happened with anwar al awlaki, particularly when the bush administration invaded iraq and we saw what happened at guantanamo. he decided to hightail it out of the united states. he started preaching more and more radically against the u.s. wars and talking about a global war on islam. you saw the rhetoric from bush people escalating, al awlaki's radicalization increases. he eventually goes back to yemen where he is arrested on orders from washington and put in the yemeni prison for 18 months, 17 of them in solitary

anwar is calling for political and economic reform. it's a move that is winning favor with many urban, middle-class families. ♪ that's one reason why a sense of crisis is spreading in the ruling coalition. najib has been stressing his successes, including bringing stable economic growth to malaysia. his election promises include more handouts for low-income families, and tax cuts as he seeks to cement his support base. although the election campaign officially kicks off in ten days, campaigning is already under way. both ruling and opposition parties are targeting malaysia's more than 2.5 million first-time voters, almost 20% of the electorate. the battle will be between prime minister najib's national front standing on its record, and anwar's opposition, running on promises of reform. nhk world, kuala lumpur. >>> bank of japan says its new monetary easing steps represent a major shift in basic policy calling it a regime change. >> translator: we can say a regime change is taking place in view of the framework of the new monetary easin

i mean i've been fascinated for for many years at the story of anwar lock in fact when i was a young producer at amy goodman show democracy now after nine eleven i remember seeing a lockie on t.v. in the united states because he was an at a very large mosque in virginia and he was profiled in the washington post and i had wanted to book him on our show because what he was doing was he was denouncing the nine eleven attacks and saying that al qaeda had heard of the religion of islam but also talking about the struggles facing many muslims in the united states remember that sort of campaign of fear mongering that took place in the rounding up of muslims and the opening of course of guantanamo and there were vigilante attacks against not only muslims but also sikhs and other people that that that whose religion. that many people ignorantly assumed to be that of muslims and so businesses were attacked and others in amara locky was really an articulate guy in describing what the situation was like for many muslims in the united states and so i he was already on my radar and then i didn't

on the issue of anwar al-awlaki, i absolutely think we would still be having this debate because anwarhe only u.s. citizen killed. there's been three others in yemen alone. the closer to quit points. in referencing the department of justice, the white paper that came out said that a senior qualified official in the u.s. government would determine who is the senior operational commander within al qaeda. there's a very real assumption the u.s. has it's not perfect, near-perfect intelligence about what is happening in the inner workings of al qaeda. i think that's a dangerous assumption to make. as i said, i've been going to yemen since 2003. i've talked to a lot of different people. one of the things most frustrating to me over the past decade is the u.s. is self-evidently right. the u.s. has more technology, more munitions and then it has my money and yet on the ground in a place like yemen, we appear to be losing. >> i think drones or a tack tick. they are one instrument of trying to deal with a deep-seated complex problem then they cannot solve that problem for us. they can be one ele

is done with the computers, they find links to anwar al-awlaki websites. we do know from youtube page he was following another extremist imam, someone who is in favor of violence against non-believers and have said that openly on his website. an australian cleric out of lebanon. >> paul: knees people are very heart hard to detect. because they are operating by themselves. what do you do at nypd to make sure that you defect these people before they become violent? >> the signals are very faint to detect radicalization. essentially nypd tried to be creative and create trip wires in a variety of places, travel overseas, absolutely, zone of conflict that required further scrutiny, maybe check out and find what the trip was about. we want to better understand the neighborhood to try and figure out, are there certain incubators where radicalization is likely to happen. in madrid, they were radicalized in a barer shop. in london, they radicalized in a bookstore. some public places at the nypd could go to and most importantly online. >> paul: had you a couple trip

with the links to the international terrorists anwar al-awlaki there is no doubt in anyone's mind. so, to me, it is appalling that this administration is more worried about a political narrative and frankly trying to give aid and comfort to a terrorist here, my goodness sake his own words will indict him and assure his presence in jail for the rest of his life. there is nothing here in the congressional legislation that will actually help the defendant in any way, any plausible way that i know. you are the lawyer. i'm not. i have studied law quite a bit. i can't see how this would give any -- congressional action to this any aid to the defense of major hasan. >> scott: what do you think is next? how do you think this all will play out? >> i'm going to encourage my members that i consider friends on the hill to push this forward. the right thing to do is take care of the families. they suffered. they continue to suffer. and they need to be taken care of first and foremost. i hope congress passes this and they force defense secretary hagel to do the right thing. >> scott: the way to

was never charged with a crime no evidence was ever publicly presented against him even if even if anwar locky is guilty of every leak that john brennan and harold koh and all these people cooked up even if he's guilty of every single thing. prosecuted charged with a crime demand is extradition won't judge who we are a society on how we treat the popular the rich the powerful how do you treat the least of your people the poor and the most reprehensible of your citizens so for me it's not about you know a lockie is some kind of a noble character he said things i found downright offensive and reprehensible he probably could have been indicted for something why not indict him so the question is when you have a president who won the nobel peace prize is a constitutional law expert by trade and is very popular among the liberal base saying we have the right to kill american citizens without due process or without even charging them with a crime we've crossed a line that you can't just walk back from after you've crossed it and the killing of a sixteen year old son this was a kid who i know th

missile strikes was interviewing anwar a lockie an al qaeda. leaders we would have been a great source of information for the cia and the obama administration has him rotting away in a yemeni prison he was going to be pardoned by the president obama personally called and intervened to make sure that the pardon was ripped up this journalist is in prison to this day and his real crime was exposing us missile strikes and interviewing the people the u.s. says are terrorists so what happens i mean i've interviewed people that are attached to al-qaeda does that mean that what i should be in jail you know i've been reporting on these missile strikes i mean where do we stop where is the line drawn when when journalists can be put in prison i don't believe for a minute it was richard engle who had done that stuff that he'd be rotting in a yemeni prison right now it's because no one cares about. he's not speaking english he's reporting in arabic much of his work no one ever hears about here well especially with things like the n.d.a. in effect that actua

missile strikes was interviewing anwar a lockie and al qaeda leaders we would have been a great source of information for the cia and the obama administration has him rotting away in a yemeni prison he was going to be pardoned by the president of yemen and obama personally called and intervened to make sure that the pardon was ripped up this journalist is in prison to this day and his real crime was exposing u.s. missile strikes and interviewing the people the u.s. says are terrorists so what happens i mean i've interviewed people that are attached to al qaeda does that mean that what i should be in jail you know i've been reporting on these missile strikes i mean where do we stop where is the line drawn when journalists can be put in prison i don't believe for a minute it was richard engle who had done that stuff that he'd be rotting in any prison right now it's because no one cares about. he's not speaking english he's reporting in arabic much of his work. no one ever hears about here well especially with things like the n.d.a. in effect that actually does say if you are coordinating

those videos it is told likely, likely from this government official that the preachings of cleric anwar almaleki key that that was part of the self radicalization and a magazine called "inspire" put out by an al qaeda affiliate with instructions in the past about how to make a bomb. investigators are looking into whether or not that played a role in that. they have not had an conclusion as of now. >> jake tapper, thank you very much. the latest is that dzhokhar is telling the investigators that the wars in iraq and afghan star were motivating factors. a a new detail as we try to figure out how this could have happened. i want to go to brian todd for more about how this could have happened. we're learning about a trip that tamerlan tsarnaev made to a fireworks show in february. where did they get the financial means but also the physical means to pull off this alleged attack. what did he buy on that trip? >> reporter: erin, we're told by the vice president of a company called phantom fireworks that tamerlan tsarnaev bought two reloadable mortar kits with 48 shells from their store in sea

. >> reporter: jones says the brothers seemed to have been inspired by the internet preachings of anwarawlaki, the charismatic american-born al qaeda jihadist who has been dead now more than a year and a half. >> the older brother appeared to be the more radicalized of the two and drove both the need to conduct the attack as well as the preparation of the attack, that is, building the bombs. >> reporter: as for what drove tamerlan? his younger brother claims it was hatred of america. >> he may have been angry about other things, about the status of his life. but he increasingly turned to jihadism, was radicalized, because among other things, u.s. foreign policy decisions overseas and that especially afghanistan and iraq. >> reporter: what the younger brother is reported to be saying is consistent with what we heard in the neighborhood about the older brother tamerlan and his disgust with things american and christian. >> he said the bike is a cheap copy off the koran. he said most american wars are excused off the bible. >> reporter: and it also emerged there might be a link to an unsol

way major hassan, my psychiatric colleague at fort hood was found was by monitoring the e-mails of anwarawlaki. but it's a very difficult process. and if someone is himself exploring -- feeling a sense of fervor, meaning, of aggression, it's quite a daunting challenge but we musn't give up our civil liberties in pursuing that challenge. >> woodruff: just quickly, inal we doou, jessica stern, it seems a few years ago we were hearing there was more homegrown radicalization going on in europe and great britain because perhaps young people were not feeling as assimilated there as they were here in the united states. that's changed? >> well, it does seem to be changed. for the most part, muslims in the united states are much better integrated. they're better educated than the average american. they're more likely to vote than the average american. but the new york city police department predicted after the 200 murder of a man that that kind of radicalization would come to the states in about five years and i think they were right. >> woodruff: on that note, we will live it there. jessica ster

the opposition camp is now led by anwar ibrahim who served as deputy prime minister. opposition parties are aggressively campaigning in their bid to wrest the power from the ruling coalition. >> they would say enough of corruption, enough of racism, enough of abuse of power, and i believe generally malaysians are prepared for change. >> reporter: najib will need to win new seats in parliament for his party in order to regain two thirds majority. failure to do so may mean losing leadership of the coalition. the upcoming election will be the closest since malaysia's independence, and will decide the balance of power in the country. malaysia is the third largest economy in asean and the outcome will have international repercussions. nhk world, kuala lumpur. >>> singapore is the current port of call for an american nuclear powered aircraft carrier. the choice of location is likely a bid by the u.s. to enhance its influence in the asia pacific region, where the chinese military is building up its presence. nhk world's mark ho has more. >> reporter: the u.s. government invi

anwar al-awlaki, who is known as the bin laden of the internet, was very adroit at manipulating individuals were no longer lonely but now belonged. the issue of moving to violence is not so well understoo that often seems to be happen stance and off precipitated by the death of a friend, the loss of a loved one, the blowing up of a family home. and the issue of radicalization, this is a systematic process and quite alarming and a major counterterrorism challenge. >> woodruff: jessica stern, what do you see in your research that causes these young men to turn the corner to something violent? >> well, i think it's often about confused identity and some young people seem to have a lot of trouble with standing that confused identity. and they find a way to identify or -- with people who feel oppressed. that narrative of oppression is often appealing to young people for whom something, as dr. post said, has gone wrong. with faisal shahzad he started having tax problems, he became more relious. hetard going to pakistan. but he -- until that change he was described as a fairly nice person. this is

investigators believed the brothers were influenced by the online preachings of islamic radicals, include anwar al-awlaki. >> the simple answer is america cannot and will not win. >> reporter: the american-born cleric was a leader of al qaeda's affiliate iniemen and linked to multiple plots in the u.s., among them, the attempted underwear bombing of a detroit-bound airliner on christmas day. al-awlaki was killed in a u.s. drone strike in 2011. authorities are also examining what they believe to be a twitter account of dzhokar tsarnaev, which includes a tweet in russian last year saying, "i will get killed young." but tsarnaev may have shared that account with another person. in watertown, where dzhokar tsarnaev was captured eight days ago, investigators towed away the boat where he had been hiding. police now say the 19-year-old did not have a weapon and did not shoot himself or at police before his arrest. tsarnaev is now being held at a federal prison hospital 40 miles from boston. tributes to bomb victims continued today. eight-year-old martin richard, who was killed in the marathon attack,

an onlean preachings of anwar al awlaki were a likely influence.ind his krad were likely an influence. there is no doubt in tsavraev's ability to conceal his sinister plan to those closest to him. his parents and even his wife. >> the reports of his involvement came as a shock to them all. >> reporter: david mattingly, cnn boston. >> our thanks to david mattingly for that. the older brother, tamerlan, tsavraev, was increasingly radicalized and may have influenced by a friend. the surviving brother told investigators the two acted alone with no outside assistance or in influence through foreign groups. joining us from washington is former cia director and chair of the foundation for defense of democracy, ambassador r. james wolsly. thank you so much for being with us. >> good to be with you. >> one of the things we are hearing, the younger brother, dzhokhar tsavraev is telling investigators, not sure if we should believe him or not, that the brothers became self-radical ice e self-radicalized here in the united states by watching online videos. does

islamist video and propaganda, some from imam fez, who is described as his australian's answer to anwar awahi. they will look for links for his lectures as well as the al qaeda propaganda, which provides instructions for providing -- building, rather, homemade explosives. all travel records are being reviewed and the older brother was out of the country for a prolonged period to russia. the fbi wants to understand if one or both brothers had military training overseas or was directed by a foreign terrorist group. >> we don't know yet what was involved in that trip, whether he was radicalized during that trip. it may be the case simply that he was radicalized more when he got home. >> just to emphasize the latest information we have is that investigators have reached no determination on whether there were any foreign terrorist ties, or involvement or direction in this, megyn. >> a lot still to learn. katherine, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> we're also getting new images of the brothers at the boston marathon taken by a spectator just before the bombs exploded. look at these. just -- t

internet preaching of the radical cleric anwar al awlaki. even though the american born al qaeda figure was killed in a -- more than a year and a half ago, his words still have power. here condemning the u.s. actions in iraq and afghanistan, which the younger brother said, became their motivation to attack. >> we have chosen the path of war in order to defend ourselves from your oppression. >> reporter: the elder brother tamerlan had another favorite speaker. a chechen rebel leader who's video tamerlan posted online. here the leader threatens death to anyone who helps the infidels. he was killed by the russians last year. and it was on the internet, dzhokhar told fbi agents, that they learned how to make a bomb with a pressure cooker all found from an al qaeda online magazine. >> it suggests people are getting smarter about building easily manufactured bombs and targeting the united states. >> reporter: in russia today, the mother of the brothers tsarnaev, who first encouraged her older son. she was defiant in claiming their innocence. >> my

anwar al-awlaki is not the only citizen that has been killed by u.s. drones. with twost close points. in referencing the department of justice, the white paper that came out, it said that a senior qualified official in the u.s. government would determine who was a senior operational command within al qaeda. there is a very real assumption there that the u.s. has, if not perfect, near-perfect intelligence about what's happening in the inner workings of al qaeda. i think that is a very dangerous assumption to make. toi said, have been going yemen since 2003. i spent a lot of time on the ground and talk to a lot of different people. one of the things that has been most frustrating to me over the past decade is that the u.s.'s -- is self evidently right. the u.s. has more technology, has more munitions, and has more men, and has more money. and yet on the ground, in a place like yemen, we appear to be losing. >> i think that drones are a tactic. they are one instrument of trying to deal with a deep- seated, complex problem, and they cannot solve the problem for us

hundred five i guess you guys have your would never want you guys wouldn't you guys would drill in anwar and kill the caribou and you know. here's a no i'm not about that i think that in two hundred years we'll be able to figure out an alternative but from afar as i can tell the preserve the reserves that are off the ship to shore up about brazil are going to the perspective in here are going to make we've got a seventy year old woman eleanor fairchild who was arrested on her own property trying to stop this keystone pipeline from being built do you guys have a problem with a foreign corporation using their highly toxic tar sands that they don't want to refine in canada they want to build a pipeline ship it down here where it can be refined in the united states do you have a problem with us being the the dumping ground mining pit for canada you'd have to go home and imperialism sam are you but that's the question i think one of our allies i'm really not concerned with letting the free market work i mean this keystone pipeline met fifty three separate standards set out by the state depart

authorities tell abc news, dzhokhar said he and his brother were following the internet preachings of anwar al awlaki, the american-born jihadist, who has been dead for a year and a half. >> it appears to me that the older brother was particularly influenced by al awlaki. >> reporter: despite his ties and his trips to russia, it was a hatred of america that motivated the attack. >> his brother believed that the u.s., through the wars in afghanistan and iraq, were killing muslims. >> reporter: hours after the younger brother talked, authorities swarmed an area behind a cambridge drugstore, looking for more explosives or the place where the bombs might have been built. the fbi hopes to get additional insight from tamerlan's wife. seen over the weekend leaving the family apartment. a rhode island native, she converted to islam and changed her name from katherine to karina. her family lawyer said monday, she was shocked to learn of her husband's role and had no idea until the fbi first released those surveillance pictures of him and named him a suspect. in fact, the lawyer says, the wife doesn'

had subjects on the radar and failed a good example is major hassan with the fbi aware of emails and anwararters stopped that investigation. >> neil: why do you think they did in those cases? because they didn't want to typecast? because they were trying to be politically correct? >> exactly. we know from the webster report on the fort hood shootings they're talking about religious stuff so we can't get into it. and the conclusion of the webster report was it was political correctness and in fact the fbi has done nothing to correct those systems that keep having these incidents recur. >> neil: what should they say, put out an edict, call it what it is, muslim extremists, how should they go about chasing this? >> within the past couple years they've purged all counterterrorism training materials of any mention of radical islam. they need to begin to roll that back. secondly. >> neil: say it for what it is, looking at radical islamist. >> yes. look, these -- i'm not saying we need to look at or throw, you know, aspersions over the entire muslim community. we know which mosques are rolling ou

the most notable one is anwar lochi, but there are others in the world. and learning how to build the bombs, kind of being attractive to this virulent idealogy which so skews islam is relatively common. and i think magazines put out by organizations like al qaeda and the arabian peninsula, a magazine known as "inspire" and other places you can learn to make these bombs, this is the path that other extremists have taken and we've seen it again, i guess. >> and another element added to the mix was the american invasion of afghanistan and then iraq. >> right. and we also learned that the older brother was a devotee to the wars. so you have them buying into conspiracy theories. 9/11 was in the mix. so it's really not stuff just put out by terrorism overseas, it was also right here in the u.s. so it was a pretty scary combination. >> michael, at different points in our involvement in afghanistan and iraq, there have been concerns raised in congress ask raised by some observers, to what extent is what we're doing creating or provoking terrorism versus suppressi

he said it is likely that the sermons of cleric anwar al-zawahiri were part of this. >> and what will happen in the next few days? his condition is deteriorating rapidly, how long can they continue to interrogate him for? >> well, they can interview him as many times as he is willing to do so. he obviously has an attorney right now. i think one of the big considerations right now is whether or not he's going to stay at beth israel hospital. a lot of the patients there who are his victims and who are family members of the victims are objecting to the fact that he is at the hospital. so right new according to what the district attorney told ashleigh banfield, they are thinking of moving him to a different state facility. they can interview him as often as he is willing to be interviewed. >> you had a pretty dramatic interview with a man called andrew kitsenberg. he took photographs of the initial gunfight with police from his home, overlooking the battle in watertown. tell me about that, jake. >> well, this is just remarkable. i mean, imagine being woken up in the middle of the night du

. >> is there evidence that the brothers were radicalized through their preachings of anwar al awlakiborn cleric killed in a u.s. drone strike and "inspire" magazine that has been circulating on the internet? >> there is a very clear indication they reviewed "inspire." as far as the influence of awlaki, again, i have not heard that at this point. that's one of the things that i'm sure the fbi is going to be looking closely into with respect to their websites, e-mails, those types of things. but "inspire" magazine is available over the internet and it is pretty clear they read that magazine and whether that is where they learned how to make the bombs, again, we don't know the answer to but, certain certainly, there are instructions in that journal that would tell you how to make bombs that are very similar to this. not exactly but similar to the ones that were used. >> i know you just emerged from a briefing with the fbi, a closed door briefing. did the fbi drop the ball a couple years ago when the russian authorities notified the u.s. that tamerlan tsarnaev was associating with islami

tamerlan was active on jihadist web sits and the brothers were followers of anwar al awlaki commonly known as the bin laden of the internet. after we drilled al awlaki with the drone in 2011. the bombers moved their allegiance to another radical imman named phi i can't see mohammed thop his head off. these guys are radical islamist. trained on the internet. temple can be several and accessible. time to spop with the pc crap and get tough on terror. andrea work around the table. pretty easy when you realize they may have had training as well. but a lot of the stuff that they did can be found in some of these online web sites. >> well, when you think about radical islam, it's not a new concept. i know a lot of people think in recent decades we have heard a lot about it. you go back to the days of thomas jefferson. the muslims were killing our ship captains, jefferson had to hear from the french what was happening. that's how he learned about the threat of radical islam. this has been going on for hundreds of years, of course, you will never hear about it in our schools or universities

and it is likely, he said, that anwar al alacki, the cleric who was killed by u.s. drones a couple of years ago, that his sermons were among those used to radicalize those among others. anderson? >> and what have investigators been able to learn as to whether or not he and his brother were in contact with any foreign terrorist groups or foreign jihadist groups? >> as of now, no investigators have found any evidence that that has happened. and dzhokhar has claimed that there are no contact with foreign groups. this is just the word of one guy who a lot of people don't have any trust for. and, of course, the older brother, tamerlan, spent all of that time abroad. so he spent all of that time abroad. and people are looking to his time in dag gas dagastan and if there was anything there. it was self radicalization from watch watching the internet, although they are looking into investigators whether or not that al kwa da in the arabian pi nin sue la magazine "inspire" played any role, teaching people how to make bombs in the kitchen. they were looking into that, but so

. >> published by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula in english, the magazine was started by anwar ali, the yemeni cleric who was killed by a u.s. drone strike. cruikshank has been tracking al qaeda and this magazine for years. he says investigators are looking closely at whether the brothers tsarnaev got their bomb recipe here. that could have larger implications. >> one of the largest concerns of western counterterrorism officials is that "inspire" magazine is still publishing new issues. in an issue that was put out recently, the magazine stated we are publishing america's worst nightmare. >> as investigators sift through evidence, the bits of bombs found blown across the crime scene should yield other clues, too. >> what were the components used in creating these devices? toa -- awith that you're going things like fingerprints, hair and fibers that may be included in there, and also tool markings. >> ray lopez is a former fbi explosives expert. >> these things were made with tools so there's going to be a -- look for tool marks that are left after these things were done, and that'

> reporter: published by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula in english, the magazine was started by anwarki, the american yemeni cleric who was killed by a u.s. drone strike. cruickshank has been tracking al qaeda and this magazine for years. he says investigators are looking closely at whether the brothers tsarnaev got their bomb recipe here. that could have larger implications. >> one of the largest concerns of western counterterrorism officials is that "inspire" magazine is still publishing new issues. in an issue that was put out recently, the magazine stated, "we are publishing america's worst nightmare." >> reporter: as investigators sift through evidence, the bits of bombs found blown across the crime scene should yield other clues, too. >> what were the components used in creating these devices? coupled with that, you're going to have an investigation or laboratory science is working on things like fingerprints, hair and fibers that may be included in there, and also tool markings. >> reporter: ray lopez is a former fbi explosives expert. >> these things were made with tools. so t

was known to help and support materially the 9/11 hijackers who was also affiliated deeply with our anwar al-aulaqi. his asylum and three times before the judge. a federal law enforcement officers tried to reopen the case and the judge considered its final. -- it final. i don't see the bill changing it very much and helping the system that's in place right now, make it more secure. it's does not there, senator. thanks very much. thank you to all of you. , want to start with you, mayor as you are focusing on economics of the bill, which i don't think people appreciate. what you see as the three biggest benefits of this bill, economically? >> the first thing with all the talk about is we need the work force. even if we hired all americans, we would still be short of the workforce. i also think that immigrants tend to bring with them new ideas, new entrepreneurialism. 60% of small businesses in colorado right now are hispanic- owned businesses and the majority of those are immigrants. if we talk about businesses -- small-business in job creators, this will create jobs. in addition, we will h

they are self-motivated, watching videos by anwar al awlaki, among others.adical cleric the u.s. killed in a drone strike in yemen about 18 months ago. they also said it may be the case they used "inspire" magazine, the al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, the yemenese satellite of al qaeda, in order to make those bombs, those very powerful bombs they're cleaning up after here today in boston. there are slivers of information coming out of there. it is difficult for investigators or for anybody to believe what he's saying because, obviously, he's facing a possible death sentence or death penalty in this case, and he also has very little reason to tell the truth at the moment. it does seem he is talking. one other bit about the hospital. families whose friends and victims are being cared for at that hospital at beth israel upset that he is there. he may be moved out, state hospital officials, as soon as he is well enough to move. and that may come in the next days or weeks. john? >> miguel marquez, not far from us right now on boylston street, which, again, is

george washington university you know who was a than palestinian anwar al-awlaki. maybe now this guy is the problem? seriously? >> i didn't know. al awlaki was a muslim chaplain at george washington university? >> yes, he was. >> look, this is where we are going now, juan, i will give you the last word. this is is where we are going. the left, this is primarily on the left. i don't see it on the right. okay. they want laws that shut you up if you criticize any so-called minority. go ahead, juan. >> well, to me what happens here is if you challenge their ideology because you talk about self-righteous. you think the catholic church is self-righteous, bill, try liberal orthodoxy in this country and i'm someone who you up in that orthodoxy. shocked at my age you know what? they will punish you more than the right wing will if you vary from what is the official line, the official message of the day. one quick point. i think if you engage in hate speech. if you start using the "n" word and all of that i'm not going to protect your right. >> bill: if you are basically doi

one thing the government official is telling it seems to me is the videos are from anwar al awlaki, they are likely, likely, the official says, to have been part of this video radicalization. anderson? >> jake, preernt that updatapprt update. drew, what are you learn sng. >> we wasn't to watertown and talked to the police chief and, anderson, we're finding out incredible details about the night of that mass shooting and the heroic events that took place there. this is a guy that they write action movies about. imagine him driving right into the midst of a fire fight and not knowing it and take a listen to what happens next. >> oh, yeah. there is a serious gunfight going on. the second person on the scene. he pulled up. he immediately gets at least one shot right through his windshield. so he is under fire as soon as he shows up. and he again, just they don't teach you this stuff in the police academy. you don't plan for this. you don't train for this. he has the -- i don't know how to describe it. the courage and determination to keep fighting, and he decides to put the car in gear becau

. >> the attack may have been inspire by al qaeda and the preachings of radical jihaddest anwar al-awlaki are focused on his older brother killed on thursday as the possible brains behind the attack. of particular interest is his trip to russia last year. a neighbor said he returned more extreme. >> he said that bible is a cheap copy of the koran and that most person wars are an excuse of the bible. >> boston is moving on. the scene of the bombing is no longer an f.b.i. crime scene. hundreds turned out at memorials to remember the dead including 23-year-old graduate student. >> we will keep running to finish the race for you. we will try to realize your unfinished dream. >> of the more than 200 people injured in the boston marathon bombings, 48 are still in the hospital recovering. the good news is that doctors say all are expected to survive and continue with their lives. eric? >> thank you. >> we are learning new details of the suspect's bother, massachusetts court officials say that the mother of the 19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev has an outstanding warrant for an incident in june. poli

he's pictured alongside anwar al awlaki. fort hood shootings, this is the cleric that communicated with nadal hasan before this was carried out. this was samir and they were killed in a drone strike in 2011 by the united states in yemen. a lot of people thought that was the end of the road for the publication which started in 2010. not so fast, carol. they still continue publishing online and they call it open source jihad, a resource manual for those who loathe tyrants and includes bomb making materials which is why investigators in boston and beyond are so interested in learning more about this magazine. it is a step by step guide of how to make chemical explosions, mechanical explosions, and as you begin to unfold the layers of these pages, this is from the first issue where they dedicated ten pages of how to make a bomb in the kitchen of your mom. it says the ingredients are readily available and it is also important to put a quantity of small nails in the bomb. of course if you remember that bomb used in the boston mara

we've seen this before, this is one of the reason why the cleric, anwar al awlaki put up videos online by a drone strike. that's why he did it, to radicalize individuals in different parts of the world. and apparently some videos like that, we don't know if it's al al wa awlaki or not, influenced tamerlan. >> any indication if this happened before or after he was given miranda warnings? >> i don't know as of now. just based on what the miranda warning is, you have the right to remain silent to have an attorney, probably before. we know that dzhokhar conveyed this through nods and by writing. the big point no, foreign terrorist group involvement according to dzhokhar. no -- the older brother tamer n tamerlan, the one driving the -- their action. and that they were self-radicalized by watching videos online and that they were jihadists, they thought they were defending islam from what? we'll find out more what they thought they were defending, in the days and weeks to come. >> key here, investigators following up on leads. not taking their word for it. >> what dzhokhar is conveying. not

. >> it could be several people, a guy on the internet or inspire magazine that anwar al-awlaki, thousandur mother's kitchen. it doesn't seem that they were done to make a maximum blast. >> greta: for more who could be behind the attack. walid pharis joins us. is there any clues or to heighten your attention to direction who do you think it was foreign or domestic? >> this operation was device with two explosions with a targeting of civilians only, this wasn't a federal building or military base. domestic and foreign could have done this. if you take the extremists, if you take a unibomber, mono bomber, can't do it but home-grown jihadists and they can do it. the difference who is practicing this the most? we've heard many guests, we've many read many reports but this has been done in pakistan and other areas. it's not sophisticated, but on the other hand those that have been trained are mostly on the jihadist side. >> greta: it's sort of like convict by odds. who is the most likely. we have to look at the actual evidence to see who it is. the odds sometimes are misleading. they send us d

and look at, instead, think about this from the anwar awlaki model where the united states began to focus on him as a person who was influential to terrorists in this country. so should there be a broader list of people like him? some of whom are, you know, espousers of these radical violent statements. tamerlan was posting some of this material on his website. should they have been looking at it from the other end? here's a list of people that we think are -- are, you know, dangerous out there on the internet. let's watch and see who comes and downloads that. again, that is a very difficult thing to do. and it is protected speech. >> yeah. >> the other thing is, these are u.s. persons. so it does to some extent limit legally what the government can do to watch what they're reading. >> and still it would come down to an interview. as you were pointing out and others have pointed out in the last few days, just the process of going around, the fbi, asking to interview someone is an aggressive step. and it can be considered to be a violation of their rights. right? you can't just keep interv

> reporter: published by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula in english, the magazine was started by anwarwlaki, the american yemeni cleric who was killed by a u.s. drone strike. cruickshank has been tracking al qaeda and this magazine for years. he says investigators are looking closely at whether the brothers tsarnaev got their bomb recipe here. that could have larger implications. >> one of the largest concerns of western counterterrorism officials is that "inspire" magazine is still publishing new issues. in an issue that was put out recently, the magazine stated, "we are publishing america's >> reporter: as investigators american yemeni cleric who was killed by a u.s. drone strike. cruickshank has been tracking al qaeda and this magazine for years. he says investigators are looking closely at whether the brothers tsarnaev got their bomb recipe here. that could have larger implications. >> one of the largest concerns of western counterterrorism officials is that "inspire" magazine is still publishing new issues. in an issue that was put out recently, the magazine stated, "we are publis