. >> vice president nakajo: anytha request? we just finished budget fiscal where in june this projection on terms of budget would occur about next spring? >> chief hayes-white: typically, it's the third week in february where we have to submit our budget. the instructions are released roughly early december. then we have january to discuss what our needs are. i would say early on in december once we begin discussions again with the mayor's budget office we like to put the hiring plan as well as our plan under the two sort of foundational items that we think are really important. back in 2012 and 2013 we were looking to memorialize today. it made for lot of continuity and streamlined our budget request. in december we would begin discussions of beyond 127 if you will. >> vice president nakajo: i think also, in terms of our request hiring and the fleet replacing -- that sets good precedent for us as a department in terms of consistency. we have a new mayor within room 200. i'm thinking that, perhaps, might be good appropriate tim