let me just say a quick answer to director heinicke, yes, a mandate of an ap should have been done 2 years ago no reason why an ap an ap shouldn't be mandated across the board for the taxi industry and despite me being here always credibility of criticizing the lack of regulation i want to answer directly director heinicke -- director heinicke we can beat these services at their own game we can have a vibrant taxi industry even in a deregulated market i wouldn't still be in the taxi business if if i didn't believe that. . i have the rides to keep my drivers busy i'm not doing that because i truly believe not only is the taxi industry vital for the city as a public service but we can also be profitable and stable but you have to work with us i have some really good ideas i'm going to be introducing them in the next weeks and i want to give hope that despite everything here the taxi industry can can be vibrant and still successful even in this environment but you have to work with us and i think we can do it. i just lastly want to mention it's the tcp's not just the tnc's but they are acting on demand as well hurti

held up and that is a really really good thing and not only would an ap solve all these response problems and all that i should say the ap will solve the payment problems if people know about it there has been clever ads about fly wheel and this and that the second thing i would request -- this doesn't need to be a regulation or rule but i'd like a report back to this board if possible before the the end of the year on what our current advertising efforts and plans are and i'd urge that these advertising efforts not just be focussed on letting folks know fly wheel curb exists but actually documenting how they are doing telling folks the response rate information we have from our partners in the industry and showing people how large the fleet is so that people realize there's a really large fleet there to leverage and i think we should commit m u.n. i resources to that whether that be bus signs or whatever available advertising resources we have this is part of our fleet and advertise it just like public safety and that sort of thing and finally i think we need to look at what regulations we can relax to allow that indust

an ap? and at the risk of showing where i'm coming from, why aren't they all on one of those aps and if they are not all on those aps mandated that they be on a similarly widespread ap we're in a situation of catch up here unfortunately and i think the public needs to know that there are these aps out there and the public needs to know these response rates exist that's the way the cab industry is going to keep pace and serve san francisco i san franciscans and my first question why not unless it's a really good reason why aren't we mandated they all be on an ap or sufficiently large radio network back in the last generation of taxi service. >> thank you. >> well i think that's a great question and i have to say i don't know the answer to that right now i'm not sure we track it and maybe it's information i would get from the information clearly we we should be tracking it i think it's a smart idea to require it, mandate it, and as i said earlier everything is on the on the table we really want to move forward in a smart way and to the extent possible want regulations to reflect the new realit

reported which i believe gave an unfair negative view of taxi industry response times the study used a poor poor methodology. for one thing, why didn't they compare aps to aps a slower dispatch service as well as our very fast ap services and in fact our aps have shorter response times as uber and lyft and so the study had they compared aps and aps i believe the study would have found a very different story. in fact when it comes to response times on the aps, our small local taxi cab companies are running in neck and neck with billion dollar global corporations and another comment you may have seen press reports showing photographs of a suspect wanted for a murder and that picture that appeared in the papers was taken by a taxi cab security camera one of the forward facing cameras and likewise sfpd recently asked for a video for dozens of taxi cabs that were in the area of fifth and mission a fatal hit-and-run incident and both of these instances are how taxi cabs enhance the safety of our city and also i love the new blog it's really good. thank you. >> thank you mr. rathman. >> good afternoon i spend a few hours to write down a point of view for my taxi i

an installation as well as what type of aps should be installed. those could include push about the -- button devices and rapidtext and vibrator tones. once the person has requested aps, mta will provide that person with the following information. a preliminary prioritization score and preliminary test for the intersection and other that were requested and whether or not any work is being planned at that intersection and whether any aps will be installed within the next three years 3 years and the name of a phone number with a contact information. if you would like to request installation of aps intersection you may submit a request by phone, 415-701-2311 or you can contact our office, the mayor's office on disability 415-554-6789. please have the following information available. the intersection you are requesting for the aps installation, your name, contact information, and the format in which you want to receive a response to the request either by phone or e-mail. if you experience or witness a disability access issue in a city facility or program, please call our office at 415-554-6789 or 311. that concludes the report. >> thank you and thank you executive direct

ap offices, do you now wonder? >> sure. i mean, i think we all should wonder, whether we're in an ap office or any other journalism shop. >> again, i want the reaction of the other two panelestists. when you heard about this case what was your reaction and did you think, my goodness? what was your reaction, dean? >> i find this case more troublesome. more troublesome than the risen case. it's the most troublesome, you know, just -- for two reasons. first, the sheer audacity and scope of the effort of the investigation. but secondly, as he said, the fact that it sort of was -- didn't even have to get approval at the highest levels shows that, i would argue, that -- and i would attribute it to the post- 9/11 era. some people would attribute it to other things. i think the view of government after september 11th, that secrecy was so important, especially on national security matters, became so pervasive, became so powerful and so ingrained in a generation of government officials, that they felt comfortable doing something that, 25 years ago even, i think would have required a real discussion. we're going to subpoena, we're going to go after the records of a major american news organization. i think the fact that that could be done at the mid-level and even surprise eric holder says a lot about just how entrenched that secrecy is in the government. >> the white house has been restricting access to many presidential events and distributing its own photographs. and then giving access to the photographs to the media, not letting us do the work ourselves are rethink we just had a case recently involving some of the former astronauts that got some coverage. steve, talk about why this is a particular problem. >> well, i care about the photographs, obviously we take photographs and it's important. because you don't want the record of what goes on in your administration to essentially be pr. so there's been a blurring in our entire industry and in the world between what's independent journalism and what's kind of an institution going directly to the public with their own message. and on some level that's fine and companies do it as well and people are using twitter to disclose things. and up to a point that's okay. but on the other hand, you know, you do have to worry that there's not a respect and a value placed on independent journalism. so we were involved and ap was involved in lobbying very hard with the white house to give us more access. we've gotten a little bit more access. >> did they get it? >> we've gotten a little more access but it's not everything you would want. >> but did they understand why -- >> did they understand? you know, i think only partly. i mean, i think one of the troubling things that we're all facing is this is at administration that said it was going to be the transparency administration. and there's been a lot of the language around the importance of transparency. and i think we all viscerally believe that the government belongs to the people and that we're the representatives of the people and i think we're all fairly idealistic about that. and we think the government works better when it's transparent. that fresh air, transparency, fresh air is the best disinfect ant. it does not look like the government feels that way. you see it not only in the white house, you see it in the executive agencies. they make it ver

ap's credibility and that, quote, we are extremely concerned and find it unacceptable that the fbi misappropriated the name of the associated press and published a false story attributed to qap. an fbi official told the ap the goal was to prevent a tragedy and cited the tragedies at a marysville high school last week. let's bring in judge napolitano. faked it. can they do it? >> here's the basic rule of law. the government, when it's investigating a crime, can lie, cheat, commit fraud, even commit assault, even steal, in order to catch a defendant but it can only do those things to the defendant it's trying to catch. it can't do it to a third party entirely innocent in this. so what is the victimized third party here? the associated press. here's what fbi did. they violated copyright law, trademark law, they violated state and federal law that prohibit using the internet to commit a fraud or to pretend to be someone or something other than you are. does the associated press have a cause of action against the fbi? can they sue the fbi for the inappropriate use of their trademark? absolutely. will they prevail? i think they will. >> really? >> yes. >> what sort of judgment could you get against an entity