in ap carter in this allison anders, again, she did a thing this allison anders, again, she did a thing about june carter. - right, years later. right, yeah. - and jewel was playing june carter and i got to play ap carter, who was the godfather of country music. and reading all of the stuff on him, that was really the juiciest and most fun part. doing the stuff, you just have to kind of wade in, and-- - well like you go on law and order for an episode. that's like work for hire, right? - that was totally fun. the easiest character choices. what do i do? hmm, be a jerk. what do i do, hmm. be self-absorbed. what do i do, you know. (chuckling) it was all laid out, 'cause i was playing this rock star who was kind of the whitesnake, is that who is? - it was like a heavy metal or hair metal kind of. - yeah, where the tragedy in rhode island, the place caught on fire, that's what it was based on. - but so that's something you're continuing to do after all this time, that's fun? - [john] sure. - but i guess the thing that you're doing primarily right now is you're, this record that has just com