you have taken time to refer to relevant parts of situations of your party policy when in ap sigz. this is a speech of the minster he gave, january of' 09. 04127. we were fans of the bbc and on the next page, we support the license fee and believe it's the best way to fund for the foreseeable future. we believe the level of the licenses are at the top end of what is acceptable to the public. hinting there that the fee may have to be frozen. >> that are is what we did, we froze the license fee much to the anger of james murdoch. that's fair and treenl other bbc. they cut by considerably more. again, this part of the experience theory has absolutely no wait at all. >> as some might say, you were not prepared to go as far as mr. murdoch to cut the fee, but prepared to meet him part way along the way. >> quite difficult to argue at a time when you know if you get into the government, you will have to be making spending reductions and see the bbc license fee go up and up and up. we had a consistent argument from my own views and the bbc needed to be strong and needed the backing of the