and apcom any with gaming from singapore.h companies choosing to go public and choosing the new york stock exchange. maria: listed public companies in the u.s. down in the u.s. because of the regulatory environment. the treasury said the regulatory environment is way too hard for companies to go public. what are you doing in terms of lowering the standards and making it easier for companies to go public. >> if you work your way down that press report the next paragraph starts with some of the efforts the new york stock exchange and i personally have engaged in to push the administration to engage in ipos. it's down by about move. but the average market case up three times. the. it's not work as well for small companies. small companies are the life blood free enterprise. maria: what can you do to get them to go public? >> with dodd-frank they went too far. big companies can handle it, small small companies cannot. not requiring external audit for the first two years that a company is public. you can extend that to all new com