one of the organizations that's doing that is the apia vote. i encourage nations and others to participate in the voting process. >> those numbers aren't coming up from election to election though, right? >> yes. >> and maralee, i know you always have a thought. >> two things. one is i really would like to encourage our apa fellow community members to get appointed to boards. >> as you are. >> yes, as i am. you can start at the community level, citizens advisory committees in every district and then also run for office. we need to see more asian elected officials in the u.s., not just in california. that's very important. the second thing is to make sure that we give back to our community, help train the next generation leaders. pay it forward. >> i think sometimes people fear it, taking on that mentoring role either because they think they're not qualified or don't have the time. what would you say to them? >> you know what, they really are a lot of information that they can share. don't be afraid. it could be just one information that could a