and lining our pockets at the expense of the lives, livelihood and health of the people in appalach appalachia? >> the answer to this, in my opinion is yes, you are. the spruce number one permit is one of the first examples of the steps that the epa has taken to stop irresponsible mining practices which were ignored during the bush administration. people from all over appalachia have lobbied the epa for these protections for the past 15 years, the coal industry was allowed to do as they played during the 18 years of the bush administration -- eight years of the bush administration, then in 2009, in steps the obama administration trying to fix the problems that the bush administration created and then ignored. the coal industry has said that the epa, and the obama administration are trying to shut down coal. the coal industry is perpetuating a lie that there is a war on coal and that coal mining jobs are under attack. this is the same false crisis that is created by this industry each time that they don't get what they want. according to recent reports by ken wharton of the charleston gazette,