my mounting counties in appalachia. either situation where due to the census they are telling me that allegheny county right next to our colleagues in west virginia has lost their designation for federal funding to qualified for the affordable care. i wrote you a letter in february february. your staff has been calling back and forth but we have been told recently there is nothing you can do. madam secretary ned to look into this. you know western maryland. you know those mountain counties. you know they have lost population. you know that they have lost jobs. we don't want them to lose hope in their government. the impact is $2 million. that might not be allowed by our spending up here but that enable them to attract doctors. it enabled them to harness volunteers like dental visits. could i have your assurance that you will actually look into this and not just have a lot of your

it's estimated that the public health burden from industrial pollution across appalachia runs at nearly $75 billion dollars a year. and while many in the coal industry and many politicians deny that the health fallout is real, health care providers on the ground have seen it daily. as a doctor in southern west virginia, daniel doyle often treats coalfield residents. one of the clinics he works at is just outside charleston, so he's also been seeing people who were impacted by january's chemical spill. >> it's a huge population cohort study and it will take us 10 20, 30 years - maybe longer - to know what the long term effects are. no question that it's an experiment, but mountaintop removal is an experiment. the water pollution that is taking place is an experiment. >> do you see the health consequences of mountain top removal on the people who live around it? >> definitely in the last eight years there's been a series of epidemiological studies finding clear association between mountain top removal and cardiovascular disease, heart attacks, birth defects, certain cancers and so there's

was born into the america that experiences and believes this opportunity, my trips to detroit, to appalachia to chicago, have revealed what i call an undercurrent of unease. it's time for a new way, a way predicated on justice, opportunity and freedom. [ cheers and applause ] >> those of us who have enjoyed the american dream must break down the wall that separates us from the other america. i want all of our children to have the same opportunities that i had. we need to stop limiting kids in poor neighbors to failing public schools and offer them school choice. [ cheers and applause ] >> it won't happen though unless we realize that we weren't borrow our way to prosperity. currently some $3 trillion comes into the u.s. treasury. couldn't the country just survive on $3 trillion? [ laughter ] >> i propose we do something extraordinary, let's just spend what comes in. [ cheers and applause ] >> in my vision for america, freedom and prosperity at home can only be achieved if we defend against enemies who are dead set on attacking us. [ applause ] >> without question we must defend ourselves, an

rand: can you imagine what $1 stimulus could do for detroit, billion or for appalachia?m convinced most americans want to work. i want to see millions of americans back at work. in my vision for america, we will bring back manufacturing jobs that pay well. more than $2 trillion in american profit currently sits overseas. in my vision for america, new highways and bridges will be built across the country, not by raising your taxes, but by lowering the tax to bring this american profit home. mark: john it sounds like barack , obama circa 2008. bring money home from work -- foreign corporations and build roads and bridges in america. john: in the speech there was an attack on crony capitalism, they have an element, as you know, the tea party, the occupy wall street, they don't like big business, big government, but he at the same time is also talking about corporate tax holiday in order to bring the money home. that's also a special interest tax break to me. so there is a little bit of intellectual confusion going on there. there is no doubt it taps into something felt by w

[applause] can you imagine what a billion dollar stimulus could do for detroit or appalachia? i am convinced most americans want to work. i want to free up the great engine of american prosperity. i want to see millions of americans back at work. in my vision of america, we will bring back manufacturing jobs that pay well. how? we will dramatically lower the taxes on american companies that wish to bring their profits home. [applause] more than $2 trillion in american profit currently sits overseas. in my vision for america, new highways and bridges will be built across the country, not by raising your taxes that by lowering the tax to bring the american profits home. [applause] even in this polarized congress, we have a chance of passing this. i say let's bring 2 trillion dollars home to america, let's bring it home now. [applause] liberal policies have failed our inner cities. let's just get the facts straight. they have failed our inner cities. our schools are not equal, and the poverty gap continues to widen. martin luther king spoke of two americas. he spoke of them is to

or for appalachia. i'm convinced most americans want to work. engine of american prosperity. i want to see millions of americans back at work. in my vision for america, we'll bring back manufacturing jobs that pay well. how? we'll dramatically lower the tax on american companies that wish to bring their profits home. [ cheers and applause ] more than $2 trillion in american profit currently sits overseas. in my vision for america new highways and bridges will be built across the country not by raising your taxes but by lowering the tax to bring this american profit home. [ cheers and applause ] even in this polarized congress, we have a chance of passing this. i say let's bring $2 trillion home to america. let's bring it home now. [ cheers and applause ] liberal policies have failed our inner cities. let's just get the facts straight. they have failed our inner cities. our schools are not equal and the poverty gap continues to widen. martin luther king spoke of two americas. he described them as two starkly different american experiences that ex

was born into the america that experiences and believes in opportunity, my trips to detroit, to appalachiahicago, have revealed what i call an undercurrent of ease. it's time for a new way, a way predicated on justice, opportunity and freedom. those of us who have enjoyed the american dream must break down the wall that separates us from the other america. i want all our children to have the same opportunities that i had. we need to stop limiting kids in poor neighborhoods to failing public schools and offer them school choice. it won't happen, though, unless we realize that we can't borrow our way to prosperity. currently some $3 trillion comes into the u.s. treasury. couldn't the country just survive on $3 trillion? i propose we do something extraordinary. let's just spend what comes in. in my vision for america, freedom and prosperity at home can only be achieved if we defend against enemies who are dead set on attacking us. without question, we must defend ourselves and american interests from our enemies. but until we name the enemy, we can't win the war. [ cheers and applause ] the e

my trips to detroit, to appalachia, to chicago, have revealed what i called an undercurrent of unease. >> now, he's saying that but at the same time he's opposing minimum wage called for cuts to the safety net. he's called for blocking granting of food stamps. will independents and democrats buy his economic message? >> reverend i think this is a question of essentially which policies do you believe will work to close this gap? because you're right, you're seeing candidates on the left and on the right start to talk about this. everybody is seeing this in the data even big businesses are. yes, there are businesses raising the minimum wage but they're seeing the writing on the wall. this is a groundswell in many ways sweeping through the countries countries. on both the right and the left, and the republican party is no exception in this way. so i think the question for paul is going to be whether or not he can sell those voters on the idea that his policies are the right ones that ultimately will help them more than say, investing more in the safety net that the country has already bu

my mountain counties up in appalachia appalachia. i have a situation where due to the census they're telling me that allegheny county right next to your colleagues in west virginia, your daughter of west virginia, has lost their designation for federal funding to qualify for the affordable care. i wrote you a letter in february. your staff has been calling back and forth, but we've been told recently there is nothing you can do. madam secretary i need you to look into this. you know western maryland you know those mountain counties. you know they've lost population. you know they've lost jobs. we don't want them to lose hope in their government. the loss is $2 million. that may not be a lot by our spending up here. it enabled them to attract doctors, enabled them to attract volunteers that reduced dental visits. can i have your assurance that you will look into this and not have a lot of bureaucratic phone calls back and forth where they just say no? >> senator, i will look into it and see what the opportunities are for us to try and

i am called to love babies in vietnam, and babies in appalachia, davies on the southside of chicago, babies in harlem babies in ethiopia. i'm a christian minister and for me justice is what love looks like in public just like it deals in private. but there is no martin. without stokely carmichael and so many other diane nash and we could go on and on. >> host: talk a little bit for a moment about the santa claus a vacation with respect to african-americans. i think part of what you are describing is the kind of historical amnesia for the fact that dr. king was not always well loved within the black community. you cite a remarkable poll from late in his life that says 55% of african-americans did not support dr. king on vietnam and ending poverty and i think it was the handing poverty part that caught me off guard. >> guest: it's true and it's very sad. you have 72% of americans across-the-board and 55% of black people disapprove. you know what whitney young said to brother martin in terms is set back the black freedom movement and martin said what you said make a money in the corpora

folk music first through contra dance-- similar to line dancing-- and then string band music from appalachiaoverlooked role of african-americans in the genre. her group, the "carolina chocolate drops," won a 2010 grammy for best new folk album, ♪ i am a country girl ♪ >> string band music is a cross cultural thing, it's not a white thing, it's not a black thing either. i'm a mixed race person, you know, and i was raised with both culturally, and i was raised sort of with the southern sort of the meÉlange of cultures, and so to me getting that information out there is way, way important, because it's like, look guys, this is why american music is so strong. ♪ if you don't come right here if you don't come right here >> brown: then: one of those moments that can change a career-- a concert in new york in 2013, put together by legendary music producer t. bone burnett to celebrate "inside llewyn davis," the film about the early folk music scene. many stars performed: joan baez, jack white, patti smith, and elvis costello among them. ♪ ♪ ♪ but by all accounts, giddens stole the show. ♪ ♪ ♪ includ

i am called to love babies in vietnam, babies in appalachia, babies on the southside of chicago, in harlem, in ethiopia. i'm a christian minister and for me justice is what love looks like in public just like what love feels like a private. that's martin king. but there's no martin without ella baker, without stokely carmichael, without to many of the freedom, so on and so on. >> host: talk about the santa claus education with respect to african-americans. i think part of what you're describing is a kind of historical amnesia for the fact that dr. king was not always well loved within the black community. you cite a remarkable poll from late in his life that says that 55% about can americans do not support dr. king on vietnam and popular i think it was the poverty for the comic opera guard. >> it's true. it's very sent. the of 72% of americans across the board all colored and 55% of black people disapprove of martin. whitney young said, you're sitting back the black freedom movement. martin said what you say it will not teach too difficult in the kingdom of truth. interest trouble against

personal catastrophes and soulful -- social pathologies exist in nonminority communities in my native appalachiagrew up in west virginia. we go to harlan county kentucky or boone county west virginia or the old rust belt cities and look at the situations in the white working class we see exactly what moynahan was noticing when it came to largely urban. he was also concerned about world poverty but we have seen basically the same thing. this is going to require response. yes you need jobs absolutely. we need to be finding ways to bring jobs to communities. it's one thing to say get a job but if there's not a job there to get it won't work but you also need people who are employable, who have cultivated and had inculcated them them the skills and the virtues to be able to work as employees and to build themselves up and to rise in their employment situations. so we need to work on all that. neither the extreme right nor the extreme left has a solution. one side is going to say it's all cultural. the other side is going to say it's all economic. if we bring in jobs problems will be solved. if we fi

inaudible conversations] the rainforest action at the sierra club looking at mountaintop removal in appalachiaare working with local governments to get it stopped and that aspect field so instead, they were not able to go after the coal companies because consumers aren't very familiar with these companies so instead they traced it back to nine banks and a published piece nine banks year after year in the way they were financing and that would scale and that started in 2010. last year was the 50 or of the campaign, and wells fargo and j.p. morgan announced that they were cutting ties. so this isn't obviously stopping the mountaintop removal entirely, but it is halting the progress and making other banks very afraid about the way the standards are tipping. another example that i like is greenpeace, they went after a bunch of big box retailers or selling unsustainable seafood and they would rank the members and year after year after year trader joe's kept coming up in the bottom third of the ranking it and they said that is strange because the consumers that care. in 2009, they launched a campaig

. -- appalachia bill. president johnson: the appellation bill doesn't have anything to do with anything. if you are going to let them lead you off the reservation iran for nothing last year. if you are going to tie up this congress and screw up when you have done for three weeks by running off until you get 400000 and appropriation, we can never get anywhere. you defeat this, hold it up and delay it and get us in this kind of shape, we can't pass anything and that's all right. i think you will be the hell of a bunch of your little world democrats. -- your liberal democrats. i'm going to be here. it's not going to bother me, -- your liberal democrats. it's not going to bother me. i'm very disappointed. i thought i had better leadership on that committee. i don't think you are entitled to it and think that you did. i think you looked me straight in the eye and said i will report this bill and get it on the floor. you didn't do it. you didn't -- then you ran off for three weeks and i couldn't even locate you

examples i like are the rain forest action and the sierra club, looking at mountaintop removal in appalachia and trying to work with local governments to get it stopped. failing that aspect failed. so instead they -- they weren't able to go after really the coal companies because consumers north fame to this coal companies. instead they traced the financing hoff the coal companies to nine banks and published the nine banks year after year and how to they were financing, at what scale and that started in 20 10. last year was the fifth year of the campaign and wells fargo and j' p morgan announced they were cutting ties with the coal company. so this is not obviously stopping mountaintop removal entirely but it is halting the progress and making the other banks very afraid about the way the standards are tipping. another example i like is green peace, they went after a bunch of big box retailers for selling unsustainable sea footed, and they would rank the retailers and year after year are year trader joe's kept coming up in the bottom third of this ranking. and they said that's so strange bec

and in terms of the flowback water and the produced water, and appalachia basin, that is my understanding that most of the flowback is re-used to drill new wells. and so the quantity of flowback and produced water has gotten really small, but you have to take care of, ship it to ohio or something for deep well injection. but because the industry has developed ways to do this, in pennsylvania, there was a remarkable situation where one of the companies, i forget which one, suggested they develop the way to use acid mine drainage coming out of coal mines as a frac water additive instead of fresh water, but there was a state regulation saying you can't get economic advantage out of using a waste product or something. so they never actually did it. but the point is that the chemical engineers are at work to try to solve the issue so that maybe in the future won't have to use fresh water, but bad water to do the actual fracking. >> thank you. mr. lomax, my time has ex-tired. ed -- i wanted to ask a coloradan a question but my time has expired. >> the gentleman is recognized for an extra minute

the conservatives west of the ap appalachias held out for a more hard shell view, if you will. now, the liberals believed -- and this is critical -- nelson rockefeller, again, as i say, had no ideology. he believed first and foremost that a problem should be taken care of through the private sector. if the private sector couldn't or wouldn't then let's look for partnership with government. the idea being the eastern establishment believed, first of all, you needed a strong robust growing, private economy. whatever it took. and government could be an agent of that. that's an idea as old as alexander hamilton. but if you didn't have that strong robust private economy you couldn't pay for the compassion mate, you couldn't afford to do all of these social programs. so they put, they thought the horse before the cart. and they felt the new deal was acting in reverse. c-span: let's go to some video e from that convention in 1964 the year that they nominated barrly goldwater at -- barry goldwater at the republican convention. >> feed on fear, hate and terror. they encourage disunity.

so whether it's miami or rural tennessee or appalachia and ohio and other places we're seeing kids in communities who never had access to college level classes, not just taking them passing them. they're not any smarter. they just have the opportunity. so we have to start to scale what works and none of this is easy. there's no secret formula here. we need to learn and be humble get better faster but we have to start to scale what works. that's why i try to give the analogy and figure out something that can cure cancer we try to disseptember made that as fast as we can. if we can end dropout rate wes need to disseminate that as fast as we can and they're doing a fantastic job but there's still far too many schools and far too many children and far too many communities who don't have access to best practices, and if we know those things work, to not share it with them is unfair unjust, unacceptable; [applause] >> i thank everyone for coming today. as a principal i feel re-envision rated going back to school and a great affirmation that d.c. is full of students, educators and community

[applause] can you imagine what a billion dollar stimulus could do for detroit or appalachia?mericans want to work. i want to free up the great engine of american prosperity. i want to see millions of americans back at work. in my vision of america, we will bring back manufacturing jobs that pay well. how? we will dramatically lower the taxes on american companies that wish to bring their profits home. [applause] more than $2 trillion in american profit currently sits overseas. in my vision for america, new highways and bridges will be built across the country, not by raising your taxes that by lowering the tax to bring the american profits home. [applause] even in this polarized congress, we have a chance of passing this. i say let's bring 2 trillion dollars home to america, let's bring it home now. [applause] liberal policies have failed our inner cities. let's just get the facts straight. they have failed our inner cities. our schools are not equal, and the poverty gap continues to widen. martin luther king spoke of two americas. he spoke of them is to americas that existed

whether it's for you in miami or what were doing in rural tennessee or appalachia and ohio and other places, we're seeing kids who never had access to college-level classes, not just taking them but passing them. we have to start to scale what works. none of this is easy, there is no secret formula here. we need to learn and be humble and get better faster than we do, but we have to start to scale what works. that's why i tried to get the medical analogy and others. when we figure out something to cure cancer, we try to disseminate that as fast as we can. if we can improve dropout rates we need to disseminate that as fast as we can. there's still far too many communities who don't have access, and if we know those things were, to not share with them is fundamentally unfair and unjust and is unacceptable. [applause] rachel: i want to close their peer i want to thank everyone again for coming today. as a principle here, it feels reinvigorating coming back to school, and it's a great affirmation that d.c. is full of students education -- educators and community members who are passionat

was born into the america that experiences and believes in opportunities, my trips to detroit to appalachiacago, have revealed what i considered to be an undercurrent of unease. it is time for a new way. a way predicated on justice opportunity, and freedom. [applause] i want all of our children to have the same opportunities that i had. we need to stop limiting kids in poor neighborhoods to failing public schools and offer school choice, not just for the privileged but for everyone. [cheers and applause] currently some $3 trillion comes in in taxes. couldn't the country just survive on $3 trillion? i propose we do something extraordinary. why don't we only spend what comes in? [cheers and applause] in my vision for america, freedom and prosperity at home can only be achieved if we defend against enemies who are dead set on attacking america. without question we must defend ourselves and american interests from our enemies. until we name the enemy though, we can not win the war. the enemy is a bar ba russ aberration. the enemy is radical islam. [applause] knot own -- not only will i name the

it has been a process that has had a profound economic implications to the people that live in appalachia very concerned about some of the issues we are talking about here today. miss craddick, there has been a lot of discussion about earthquakes. is there some confusion at the earthquakes are being caused by hydraulic fracturing when it is really the deep well injection of the waste? would you take a minute and comment on that? ms. craddick: thank you for the question. i will cite that your governor -- i will say that your governor and your legislators -- hopefully we continue to give you good advice. we obviously all take seismicity very seriously. the information available today is that hydraulic fracturing is not causing earthquakes. we are still researching and looking at the available science and we just had a new study come out on monday night that our seismologists are going through and working with them. we are still looking at deep water injection wells and whether or not that is a potential challenge. the answer is i don't think anybody knows. what i do think some of these stud

it has been a process that has had a profound economic implications to the people that live in appalachia. i am very concerned about some of the issues we are talking about here today. miss craddick, there has been a lot of discussion about earthquakes. is there some confusion at the earthquakes are being caused by hydraulic fracturing when it is really the deep well injection of the waste? would you take a minute and comment on that? ms. craddick: thank you for the question. i will cite that your governor -- i will say that your governor and your legislators -- hopefully we continue to give you good advice. we obviously all take seismicity very seriously. the information available today is that hydraulic fracturing is not causing earthquakes. we are still researching and looking at the available science and we just had a new study come out on monday night that our seismologists are going through and working with them. we are still looking at deep water injection wells and whether or not that is a potential challenge. the answer is i don't think anybody knows. what i do think some of thes

the bottom line is that we are losing thousands of jobs in the central appalachia region and in a recent article, a thousand jobs have been lost in the last year alone in the coal fields. that is one concern. we are shutting down this month several coal-fired power plants in my district and we are going to have serious problems if we don't do something. we have to help the industry. we have to help make sure that we are burning the coal in a clean manner and this is the way to do it. i yield back. the chair: the question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from virginia. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. the amendment is agreed to. the gentlelady from ohio. ms. kaptur: i would like on that vote to have a recorded vote. the chair: pursuant to clause rule 18, further proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from virginia is postponed. ms. castor: i have an amendment at the desk. the chair: the clerk will report the amendment. the clerk: amendment offered by ms. castor, page 21 line 5 insert increase by 66 million

starting to get outside extraordinary results for young people who historically struggle in tennessee appalachia, ohio were graduation rates are higher than the safety of open government education is take a scale that is working. we should invest in poor programs but also innovation and how great local educators feel that is making a difference in their community. there is amazing work going on. i think it is very appropriate federal role and doesn't happen in the state and local bible. so many more application dollars available here. >> thank you senator cochran. chairman mikulski. >> thank you mr. chairman. first of all mr. secretary thank you for your service to your the fact that your ten-year long shows that you have education and you right now i'm end of right now and then the attendant to see what works and what doesn't. we thank you for your advocacy and steadfastness. i want to associate my remarks with the senator from washington, senator murray. we have of his own testing cat. there's no two ways about it. to list the different facts and i don't argue with this committee or even on th

extraordinary results for young people who historically struggled weather it's in rural tennessee or appalachia, what we don't do in education is take to scale what's working we should invest in those core programs, we also need to invest in education. there's amazing work going on out there, we just don't look at those benefits enough. it's an important federal role, it doesn't begin at the state and local level. we can do better together there about. >> thank you, senator cochran. >> mr. chairman, thank you. first of all, mr. secretary, thank you for your service the fact that your tenure has been long in the obama administration shows that you really have -- really a real commitment to education, and really now over the span of your tenure, really seen what works and what doesn't. we really want to thank you for your advocacy and steadfastness. i want to associate my remarks with the senator from washington, senator murray. in order to meet our needs, we have to focus on lifting the gaps. there's no two ways about it i know there are colleges who want to lift the defense caps. and i don't ar

democratic primaries where voters -- these white- working-class voters in pennsylvania, ohio and through appalachia, west virginia, kentucky, states like this she did extremely, extremely well in those parts of the country, in those states against barack obama. these are voters in a lot of way they're historically democratic. they've moved a lot closer to the republican party. it's really been accelerated during the obama presidency. these are voters who have gone in droves to republicans. so there's an interesting question here with hillary clinton. if she becomes the democratic nominee, can she reconnect with those voters and can she make the democratic party competitive in some of these rural states that are historically democratic but have gone republican? can she bring west virginia back? can she put kentucky back in play? some people think this is gone but arkansas bill clinton's home state, can she make a game of it there, missouri? that's what i'm interested to see, if she could change the electoral map in any way. >> okay steve kornacki. alex seitz-wald thanks so much. you can always watch

that's where the problem shifted after it went through appalachia. went to the wealthy suburbs. kids, who ben fitted most from the runup of the last 15, 20 years are getting addicted to drugs used of all things to numb pain. one cop was driving me around and said, what pain? where is the pain? there is pain. there's the pain of people who have not really been able to, i guess, feel happiness in some way, achieve the happiness they thought was coming with enough stuff. so that shocked me. portsmouth with the ox oxycontin and the sad departure of the swimming pool, and jalisco, a little town in the middle of nowhere that provides now heroin -- i counted 17 states and another eight states where they'd come and gone. i'm not sure if they're still there yet. you're talking about half the country from a town the size of this quad where we're sitting and 23,000 people live there all of this one shocking in after another. surprising amazing thing after another in this story, i have to say. >> host: sam quinones is our guest. "dreamland" is the become. jeff, you're first up today. >> cal

have to hire people who live in these areas to help you or detroit it would be $1.3 billion for appalachiamy stay, the rural folks that live in the mountains, nearly $1 billion. we can have a plan for poverty he would we can have a plan for unemployment. instead of saying, we can get the votes who own business, we are already doing that. you have to get the people who work for the people owning businesses. you have to say, how will you help unemployment? you could be like the democrats and create a new program, or be like republicans of old and before tax cuts to help the poor . i think we could create millions of jobs. when reagan did this, we created over 20 million jobs. i think the jobs in the 1990's were still being created because of the policies of reagan in the 1980's. to win again, for us to be the dominant party, for us to win not just texas, not just georgia, or us to win ohio, michigan pennsylvania, colorado, all of these purple states, new hampshire, to win these purple states, i think we need to be the party that defense the entire bill of rights. [applause] senator paul: we

for appalachia, my state the poor rural folks who live in the mountains, it would be the most $1 billion. we can have a plan for poor people and unemployment. instead of a thing, we can get all of the votes of people in business. we are doing that. if you want to win elections you have work with the people owning the businesses. you have to get out there and say, how are you going to help one of women? you could be like the democrats and create a new program, or we can be like republicans of old and before tax cuts to help the poor. we should create millions of jobs again. when reagan did this in the early 1980's, we created more than 20 million jobs. i think a lot of the jobs in the 1990's were created because the policies of reagan in the 80. to win again, for us to be the dominant party, for us to win not just texas, not just georgia, for us to win ohio, michigan pennsylvania, colorado -- all these purple states. to win these purple states that are so easy anymore, i think we need to be the party that defends the entire bill of rights. [applause] senator paul: we have been pretty good

my mountain counties up in appalachia i have a situation where due the census, they are telling me that allegheny county has lost their designation for federal funding to qualify for the affordable care. i wrote you a letter in february. your staff has been calling back and forth but we have been told recently there is nothing you can do. madam secretary, i need you to look into this. you know western maryland. you know those mountain counties. you know they have lost population. you know that they have lost jobs. we don't want them to lose hope in the government. the impact is $2 million. might not be a lot, but our spending up here, but that enables them to attract doctors and harness volunteers. could i have your assurance that you will actually look into this and not just have a lot of bureaucratic phone calls back and forth where they just say no? secretary burwell: i will look into it and see about supporting this county. senator mikulski: they are not an urban county. so let me go on to another issue, which really was the source of great interests among many of us. we worked on a

i'm called to love babies in vietnam, babies in appalachia, babies on the south side of chicago, in ethiopia. i'm a christian minister. for me justice is what love looks like in public just like p tenderness is what love feels like in private. there's no martin without ella baker, without stokley carmichael, without so many of the -- diane mark, we can go on -- diane nash, we can go on and on. >> talk about the santa clausification with respect to african-americans. because i think part of what you're describing is a kind of historical amnesia for the fact that dr. king was not always well loved within the black community. and you cite a pretty remarkel -- remarkable poll from late in his life that says 55% of african-americans did not support dr. king on vietnam and ending poverty. and i think it was the ending poverty that caught me off guard. >> yes, yes. no, it's true, and it's very sad. you've got 72% of americans across the board, all color, and 55% of black people disapproving of martin. you remember what whitney young said to brother martin in terms of you're setting back the black f