thank you. >> rebuttal for the appellant?can i just let you know those were from the p t s not something that is made up just the other day. we don't object to any of the paving for this we understand the city has put in time and effort and public comment complaints those complaints don't lie. and no longer live and getting back to the sros you'll find surprised not see tons of complaints on that this is not unusual to see that. right now as possibly i pointed out earlier we are in the process of finishing up we need time to do that and like to delay the read into the record the order of abatement and not that much we need to again, the big one about the bathroom we are not do something about it and will go back to planning and trying to get things done as quickly as possible and this is the sro we've been living there all the time and not easy to work in that being said, i will hope you give us time to close that permits that have been issued and will be finishing everything off are working together inspections and have some

i deal in appellate and supreme court realm, not trial court realm.ow do you get this case out of the mire of new york, which takes a long time, new york lawyers are telling us, which will be done after the election. what do we do? we sit here and ring our hands and whine. no, we don't, we try even if we fail. to pave a way to the united states supreme court. why is this important to the united states supreme court? multiple reasons. lawyers have said this case has a national impact, a state why, acting state judge took federal jurisdiction. is supreme court happy with acting judge taking jurisdiction over federal campaign laws? i'm betting not. why? there are thousands of judges in 50 states and state prosecutors, they can do whatever the hell they want to do, no due process, no medicate crime, no element to be proven. is new york appellate court will decide for the whole damn country what goes on in minnesota and california and kansas and oklahoma? no. no. we're going to reward timing that alvin bragg and merchan timing right smack in middle of the

>> like the appellant any rebuttal?> um, getting back to what i said earlier the wall has been removed so not an imminent hazard on 34 part removed so not a hazard as see i think we are done and removed that hazard the complaint was about so i feel that we're not even though the work has not done with the drawings but working, working with another engineer to address the retaining walls and had cracks in that for over 20 or thirty years and i want to mention the property line the neighbor was talking about a second ago is that that been around for a long time and leaning on his property has been removed and so that's where we stand right now. >> thank you. >> thank you. okay.. thank you. >> um, then the board have discussion or questions? >> i have a couple of questions. >> so i'm sorry, go ahead. >> there is been a assertion made that it is life safety hazard this is not a life safety has is there an engineering report do you have a engineering report stating not a life safety hazard. >> at that point in written report

as has been stated by the appellant, and residents as well. so, you know, i definitely do have questions for the entertainment commissioner as well which i'll get to in a few minutes but. >> what i'll ask you right now, i understand your vision for the shared spaces expansion. my question is what the need is for the full shut down with the fact that there is nothing else going on other than your lion dances. giving the fact that the merchants are here protesting here a little bit. what is the need for the closed down before there are con scaoet plans and funding in place for a larger activation? >> i guess for the street closure, since it was handed out to me. i didn't know much about it, i thought it's a duty, i must keep this closed at this times, flexible and time can be an option, right but i feel like, not given information on how things are working and told everything that i found out is through public notice. and each time there was public notice, i wented and talked to the merchants or whoever directly, and hey, is this issue, they nev

appellate process is going to go through the appellate division first. if the appellate decision of decision division upholds the verdict, then of course, a grant lead to see if they'll go to the court of appeals, but that's not going to happen here. i don't think that but there's such a big issue that the new york court of appeals is going to step in and reverse the conviction itself. and just just be mindful that even if either least courts that bint doesn't mean that they're going to dismiss the case if anything, they're going to send it back to the trial court. but the united states supreme court so that's packed with trump's nominees is not going to make a decision. and this new york state criminal conviction, missy todd blanche, trump's lead attorney in there, sat down fascinating conversation with a colleague, kaitlan collins last time i want you to take it a listen to this do you accept that he did have his de and cord and it was a jury of his peers that made this decision no. >> not at all. >> we were indicted for conduct that happened in 2015,

i in the new york appellate courts. we're _ in the new york appellate courts.e courts. we're still looking at _ in the new york appellate courts. we're still looking at the imagesl we're still looking at the images outside the courthouse, where expecting to see donald trump's convoy taking off at some moment, we saw him speaking in front of the courthouse a while ago, we are seeing images in front of the courthouse, we know a lot of people were gathered there today. if you're justjoining us, this historic moment, donald trump found guilty on all 3a counts of falsifying business records. we also have a us federal prosecutor as we're getting some analysis on the analysis, faith, if you can hear me, i would love to get your reaction to this verdict. i can your reaction to this verdict. i can hear you. — your reaction to this verdict. i can hear you, thank— your reaction to this verdict. i can hear you, thank you. _ your reaction to this verdict. i can hear you, thank you. it's - your reaction to this verdict. i can hear you, thank you. it's a - your reaction to th

we'll hear from the appellant first.me, you have seven minutes. >> good evening, commissioners. here on the property owner. we would first to acknowledge for working for us on this and we're happy to accommodate the larger boxes that they've requested. since we've been able to reach an agreement, i'm going to try to limit my remarks but i would like to explain why these trees need to be replaced. 88 sphere or 1100 mission or 60 sphere is an aging office building with constructed in 1966. as shown on the proposal to renovate the property and create a more groundwork experience, they will add a floor cafe, complete a major renovation, to create tenant and construct a new level restaurant. providing resort is a key aspect of the plan for this property. with the goal of enticing people. most of these amenities would be added to the basement which would include sauna rooms and gym. as detailed in our brief, the has been on water. there are visible signs of water intrusion as you can see here. given the scale of improvement pl

but they're you know, and they have some appellate issues that they can bring forward. for example, the judge dressed down the defense several times during the particular, the cross-examination and direct examination of daniels. for not objecting after they made a failed mistrial motion. and so he may have appellate rights to try to argue ineffective assistance of counsel. he may have some other things to say about the way in which the jury was able to find a verdict that was not unanimous on some of the means that were carried out. but really, it's going to be a long shot to win an appeal on this and he can't pardon himself. >> nbc menews is reporting that donald trump, the web side has crashed. presumably because they're in fund raising mode and getting support from this. the former president with a firm grip on the republican party. duncan, he criticizes the prosecutor, the d.a., the judge for their political leanings. is that a valid criticism? >> no. this is a jury that he picked himself. this is not a rigged trial. this is a trial that was overseen by a judge who

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you're on the legal side of things and fighting the appellate process. what do you say to a trump supporter tonight who looks at this and feels pretty dismayed? >> i think it's very important that we all remember where this comes from. it was joe biden himself who said that he would attempt to prevent president trump from winning the presidency again through quote, unquote, constitutional means. meaning the weaponization of our legal system against his political opponent in a fashion reminiscent of banana republics or the soviet union. >> bret: let me interrupt, will. we have gone around this block. obviously can you make the tangential argument and say this looks like it's all connected. do you have hard evidence that the biden machine, in the white house, the campaign, or the doj, is somehow directly tied -- i mentioned matthew colangelo being a former doj attorney, directly tied to what we saw here in this courtroom? >> i think when you look at all of the litigation going on against president trump in the country, it is very clear that it is being coo

marterie, appel au secours pour accueil au debut, appelle au secours. no, mom, maybe you can forgiveu never really liked it, my dear, this is a memory of paris and me, you yourself said that he was shit, yes, you said, so what , okay, this is a memory of paris, and dima is yours. the coward, he shitted himself, he ran away, well, mom, no, no, lord, my appetite is gone, lord. she will come back to you more than once, hello , hello, i have copuccina, please pay, please, or you can smile, your smile is unique, pay with a smile safe, convenient with savings. cool stuff, thank you, and now turn your back, please, you ’re being silent too loudly, what are you talking about, you know very well what you’re talking about, i won’t reconcile you with your wife again, but that’s not what i’m after. it’s just scary right now, i know you too well, you don’t do anything for nothing, in a week next thursday you will go to my department instead of me, are you out of your mind, yes, i’m already here from morning to night from night to morning, still take overtime, but no. on its side and fix it, sol,

the appellate courts can take care of a lot of things. this should be an easy ruling and it -- i think of great judge to determine that it's a witch hunt. it needs decisiveness. every single scholar says there has been no crime, he has done nothing wrong. i am fighting for 300 million people. it is not that i like doing that sitting in an ice box all day for seven, eight, nine hours. i'm doing it because our country needs it. our constitution is under threat. our country needs it. so here i am. we'll be doing something in the morning and probably coming back in the afternoon and we'll be resting pretty quickly, resting the case. i won't be resting. i don't rest. i would like to rest sometimes but i don't get to rest. but we have won the case by any standard. any other judge would have thrown this case out. any other judge would have thrown this case out. i think that juan merchan would do himself and do the state and city a great service by doing what everybody knows should be done and so we'll go in and we'll have another little scrub in

but this one shouldn't get to an appellate court. this should be an easy ruling.om the bench. cheryl: i wanted to play the sound bite from the former president because look at what happened in the harvey weinstein case in new york. that was overturned. >> yeah, well, and we've he had a lot of success with the appellate division in previous matters. they addressed in the civil enforcement action brought by a a g latisha james against president trump, the appellate overruled the judge four times so we believe ultimately the courts will get this right. the question is how much damage is done in the meantime. you asked why alvin bragg would bring a case like this. i think the answer is simple. election interference and base political motivations which should have no role whatsoever in a proceeding like this in any prosecution. i think this case is deeply offensive to core american notions of the rule of law, of the way that we're supposed to conduct elections in this country. this is a deeply, deeply offensive prosecution to me as a former prosecutor and i believe tha

he refused to order of the appellate division. he gave them -- you understand that, he looked at them and said i'm not doing this. i'm not doing this. i won't follow the orders. what does he care? he is retiring or something. another corrupt judge. and the third judge you know about him. that was a disgraceful situation. so this is all in new york. the people know, but it is a democratic -- corrupt president, this president that is destroying our country. look at the job numbers today. they were so much lower. nobody ever thought a thing like this could happen so quickly. they are trying to get this horrible president, the worst president in the history of our country, they are trying to get him elected with these three judges that i have had in new york. and it is a disgrace. an absolute disgrace. [inaudible question] >> what's my plan for jobs? my plan for jobs is to drill, baby drill, to bring energy down. close up the border, to get rid of all the criminals allowed into our country. our country is being inundated with criminal

we have an appellate system.have a supreme court -- appellate system in the state that will review this. president trump does not gain the kind of favor that he wants there, he can appeal even higher. but our system will work this out. and for anyone to suggest that our country that has survived the revolutionary war, a civil war, world war i, world war ii, that we won't be able to make it through this, i'd say shame on you. we are a huge country, with huge ideals and huge dreams and aspirations. whether you support president trump or not, he will have an opportunity to remedy this. if the law is on his side. and i would hope that those who don't like president trump or who don't like his politics don't take glee in this. don't take joy in this. this is a day in which justice was served at the first court, and we will see what happens here over the next several months, as i'm sure, based on some of the enumeration we heard from judge pirro and even from andy mccarthy and shannon bream and others about the things

will scharf is the trump appellate team attorney, he joined special report last night.eplete with reversible error, going back to the very first day, continuing through jury instructions, every aspect of this case is ripe for appeal. we are going to aappeal as quick cannily as we can. we will seek expedited review of this case and we're going to trust that the appellate courts in new york understand the dangerous pandoras box that this lawless judgment has opened and that they understand the fob shale ramifications -- potential ramification toss the our legal system. maria: one question, what should the trump team do now? they've got 30 days to appeal and also what about the supreme court? how much is scotus focused on this as they debate and deliberate over the potential for presidential immunity on the january 6th case. >> sure. well, first of all, will scharf is a very good lawyer, glad he's staying on the team. i was not thrilled with the chief counsel in this case but will scharf is very good and they need to bring on-board some more experienced appellate lawyers w

either the appellate think of it. the republican party, one of ths somebody to be their candidate, and that candidate now has been sitting here for almost 5 weeks in the freezing cold icebox listening to this stuff. no crime. cnn, the crux of the case is trump knew this and now. trump didn't know. he never would have agreed to be robbed by cohen. he absolutely didn't know. this is a bomb being dropped on the prosecution's case. this is cruising for prosecution credibility. i will tell you about. new york state is so bad. watching all the world. businesses are going to be leaving the state where they already are, unfortunately. budother judges that have creata horrible scar on the constitution. hopefully the appellate courts will take care of it. cohen about that. i have not made -- guilty to larceny. because you know it has taken place. i won't even mention. i have a gag order. i'm not supposed to be talking about certain things. i'm being very careful. you saw what happened. this is cnn mentioning it. which it is lar

this, this and gordon and kappelman other judges that have just created a horrible scar oh, the appellate courts will take care of it but this did not ask about that on direct and. this is elie honig have not made him plead guilty to larceny because you know what taken place. that mean that i wanted to mention it is remember again, i'm not supposed to draw get met certain things in some be very careful, but he saw this is cnn mentioned they get which it is larceny, which it is. and you know what they're talking about, because there was admitted. the money he's won't say that the money hizon say that in fact, you're gonna have to get this one because i can't read it. i've been reading this. but as a vicious statement he respected persons and elie honig. >> so you have to read them yourself because i've been gagged turns out now that trump was yeah i said, you can read that. >> i can read it because sometimes to say it they go confrontation the. prosecutor misled this jury so there is against to be made because five people stay in very professionally that the prosecutors should be prosecute

. >> we just filed a major motion in the appellate division concerning the absolutely unconstitutional gag order where i am essentially not allowed to talk to you about anything meaningful going on in the case and many good things are going on with the case.

there are appellate issues. the idea judge merchan allowed stormy daniels to testify, at all, and get into whether there was an affair does nothing to establish legitimacy of business record entries in 2017. i think appellate court would be critic critical of that. if we get to appellate system, that is way past the 2024 election and then we have truly election interference at hand. >> carley: prosecutor for bragg donated to biden's campaign and to act blue during the 2020 election cycle, does this surprise you or matter ? >> it is no surprise, they have blinders on. we have alvin bragg, who is put into office promising he wants to take down donald trump. we have issues with the judge and michael colangelo. this case is garbage. it is answered in evidence of their bias. >> todd: you wonder if the jury, to your point, not only was viewing yesterday as what it was, but has been bored by the testimony thus far. it does not prove any law. >> carley: they were not born yesterday. wild. >> todd: up to this point, bori

this will have to wait for appellate review. maybe merchan will come to his senses and acquit trump. >> dana: i just had to ask. i like to ask a smart person about it. >> bill: cohen is describing how they commune indicated with each other. trump made -- using emails, prosecutors can follow the paper trail. >> dana: not wrong. >> bill: as we have seen time and time again. jonathan turley, jump back in here because it seems pretty straight forward now like the trial has been clarified and it's been clarified to this point, it is cohen's word against everybody else. do you see it that way? >> well, we've already learned a couple of things. one is that a vortex did not open up the minute cohen took the oath and have the entire courtroom disappear into the netherworld. we can check that off. the fact that cohen is taking another oath itself was quite an attraction. and obviously he will get -- it was interesting before his testimony to watch this effort to get in the agreement of the accountant. that was such an obvious and dishones

it seems like the appellate division wants to put this until there is a verdict.course, at which time if there is a guilty verdict there will be an immediate appeal to the appellate division. if they upheld the guilty verdict will go to the court of appeals in new york and possibly the supreme court, i believe, will take this up on constitutional grounds for the gag order and for unfair trial but as -- at this point it doesn't look like the appellate division wants to get involved. you want to allow one michelin to just run a mark and allow this lack unconstitutional right to continue in this courtroom. the lack of any respect for the constitution and the lack of protection that constitution allows the president, the former president, are not allowing that in this courtroom and it seemed like the appellate division is just letting that happen. >> sandra: it looks like there is some more exchange is happening right now at the first republic bank statement and the back-and-forth that happened there. will have more updates for our viewers in this moment on that. rebe

>> yes, i mean, he's speaking to the appellate division right then.his is what i'm thinking. if you speak to appellate judges, they say give me something to hang my hat on. >> they don't want to overturn? >> they want to do the right thing, i think. but given an otherwise fairly obtained conviction, you don't want to overturn it. and by judge merchan saying that, he's telegraphing to the appellate division, this is why i did it. the fact that they opened on stormy daniels is a liar is a license for the prosecution to say, well, they're calling my witness a liar, everything she's saying is not true. this encounter never happened, and so the details matter. that's not not compelling. and i think rosenberg is right when he says the standard of abuse of discretion is high. they didn't object. it is an issue on appeal. that in and of itself i don't think will ruin the day. >> i have to say the phrase dog whistle for rape is charged. many articles were written in the after math of her first day of testimony that talked about that this sounded like nonconsen

the appellant for item five, appeal number 20 4-021 at 1618 to has withdrawn . consequently, the matter will not be heard. so if anyone here came for item five, the appeal has been withdrawn. okay. we are now moving on to item4x@ number one, which is general public comment. this is an opportunity for anyone who would like to speak on a matter within the board's jurisdiction, but that is not on tonight's calendar. is there anyone here for general public comment? okay. hi, my name is william sorensen bill sorensen, and i'm here to speak about a notice of violation that we received notice of violation 202422641 citing us for peeling paint on the front and the south side of our house and intimating that there was a possibility of lead paint when my roommate called the housing inspector named in the complaint, he went off on my roommate about getting certified people to do lead abatement and paint the house. we have no lead. but he retorted, are you going to make me pound sand? he refused to entertain, looking at the permit we had signed off when we completely replac

an appellate court ruled bannon was rightly convicted of contempt of congress and he now faces a four month prison sentence. what the committee was trying to find out in the house january 6th committee was what bannon told trump behind the scenes in the days ahead of the capitol attack. >> norah: and he still won't

i tell you what, the appellate division judges should step in. what this judge is getting away with is disgraceful, including the fact that we have thousands of people, 100,000 people in new jersey. they would like to show their support. it is like an armed camp outside. you can't get one person within three blocks of this courthouse. gregg jarrett, you take a look at this statement, we're in the fourth week and there is still no evidence whatsoever connecting trump with any criminal wrongdoing. a crime that's not charged, a crime that in which prosecutors won't even tell the defendant what it is. we have records and they talk about bookkeeping. we call a legal expense a legal expense. we don't call it a construction expense. we don't say concrete work or electrical work. we paid a lawyer a legal expense. it is marked down in the book legal expense. it is perfectly marked down. the other side says let's indict him anyway. this comes from biden and the white house, by the way. they have their top people here because he can't put two sentences toge

the appellate judges denied trump's request to move the trial out of manhattan.so refused to find judge merchan improperly decided not to recuse himself from the case. so this means he will still oversee the trial. there is one republican congressman who has called on the judge to dismiss the case. in a letter to merchan he says, and i quote. this prosecution suffers from numerous fatal flaws. a judgment in the bragg case for either side raises the prospects that state and local prosecutors can take federal law into their own hands. former f.b.i. director james comey giving his prediction for the trial. watch. >> i think there is an overwhelming chance of a conviction. significant but much smaller chance of a hung jury. 0 chance of an acquittal. they had a much stronger case than i imagined. >> julie: you know democrats are hemming and hawing and complaining about the fact that jury selection won't be fair in wilmington, delaware. same could be said here in new york city. do you believe that the judge should recuse himself? >> this case in the trump case let me t

♪ ♪ appellate division concerning the absolutely unconstitutional gag order where i'm essentially notowed to talk to you about anything meaningful that's going on in the case. many good things are going on with the case. it shouldn't have been filed. they had this morning the top legal scholars in the country, this is a frankenstein case. they attached it to aa dead feel knee. so many of us are amazed to watch us walk into court. it is not a recognizable crime that anybody has seen. jonathan turley. i've been doing this for 60 years and i don't understand what crime he has been charged with. nobody understands this. i just don't get the crime. there is no evidence of any crime whatsoever. this is a sham. that's alan dershowitz. these are people that speak their minds. they are not for me but for justice. this is another one. without precedent in american history. only with the desperation of president joe biden and his fanatic left wing enforcers did it become possible to think about arresting and jailing their major political opponent. this case must be taken out of judge merchan's h

we'll have to see how fast the appeal goes through the system, but we will get an appellant decisionink that is unlikely. —— we might get an appellant decision. thank you very much. thanks for havin: thank you very much. thanks for having me- _ joining me now is ty cobb, former trump white house lawyer. great to have you here with us on bbc news. were you surprised that the jury in the end took only two days of deliberations for making this verdict? mat only two days of deliberations for making this verdict? not at all. i for making this verdict? not at all- i think _ for making this verdict? not at all. i think | — for making this verdict? not at all. i thinki am _ for making this verdict? not at all. i think i am on _ for making this verdict? not at all. i think i am on the - for making this verdict? not at all. i think i am on the record i all. i think i am on the record of having predicted a verdict of having predicted a verdict of no later than tomorrow. i think the reason is that this is a very simple case. the indictment, which will be the subject of significant challenges on

to the code of conduct and didn't it is likely the panel on the appellate division won't get to theaundry list of the rest of the stuff. they will say that is correct. it is reversible error. the rest of the points won't matter. there are a lot of points. under the code of conduct he had an absolute duty, not maybe, not if, not if everybody -- no, he shall recuse himself if he is connected especially in the way that he is connected outside of this courtroom to other people extraneous to this trial and he blatantly thumbed his nose at the code of conduct disrespecting his robe, disrespecting the people of this country and the people of the state of new york. he did it all. so that would be argument number one in the appellate brief and they don't get to issue number 100. >> i love you. we go way back. but when that judge said do you have a problem with me being the presiding judge? no one objected. it will be an issue for the defense. if they rest on that, they will have an issue on that appeal and they will argue maybe former president trump will switch it out and have an appellate

it would be entirely up to an appellate judge on whether that the request is granted. washington law school professor jonathan turley says if there's a conviction, the judge may take into consideration that trump is a former president. >> he's under the control and constant supervision of the secret service. there's no need to have home confinement or restrictions pending any sentencing, and he's going to immediately appeal anyway. >> reporter: as for the grounds which trump's team could appeal to have the conviction overturned if there is one, one of the theories which has been discussed by fox legal experts is for trump's lawyers to argue that testimony from adult film star stormy daniels was prejudicial. during the trial trump's lawyer said daniels' recounting of an alleged sexual encounter with the former president had, quote, nothing to do with this case. during daniels' testimony, trump's lawyers also called twice for a mistrial but were denied by judge juan her chain -- juan merchan. also on the grounds of a novel legal strategy, trump is charged with 34 counts

in fact, defendants usually aren't present at the appellate court when they are appeals are argued. to but he won't be there. >> one last specific question. on the probation department, they prepare a report, essentially, an internal report or the public facing? that is essentially meant to help the judge and the judges decision on the sentence. what can you tell us about that? >> it is filed and it is still kind of old school in the criminal term in manhattan. it is filed with the court. it is called the investigation and sentencing period. and the sentencing report was filed both the defense will get it, the prosecution will get it, the court will get it and ultimately that court is in the file, the official court file. >> catherine christian, absolutely, absolutely essential to have you with us here tonight. thank you so much. much appreciated. four much more ahead, next hour as our coverage continues of the historic conviction of a former president donald trump, a unanimous jury verdict today, convicted on all 34 felony counts. we will be right back. right b. lakesha: childhood

it does create an appellate issue.ent will be sentenced to prison, even if convicted. this is one additional issue in trump's appellate team can turn to when they appeal a conviction, if any. >> todd: other one being main one being we did not know what we had to defend against until the summation. and updaetz for d did dy. sgls there will be many and this is why, if you are a prosecutor and i've prosecuted many, you don't want your witnesses before the grand jury, you are creating potential impeachment evidence that can be used at trial. this case is unique. we know diddy will look at 10 or more years in federal prison and possibility victims go sideways, might not show up, they may be scared or have a financial motive not to testify because they are paid off. prosecutors want to testify under oath before grand jury before they return that indictment. that way the case will be bullet proof at trial. >> todd: neama, thank you. >> carley: frightening scene unfolding in mississippi. family carjacked by gunmen trying to st

the reality is, it will take six or more months before appellate panel will hear oral argument and in the meantime, todd, what i've been harping on, there is no crime victim. reason that is important, next step for donald trump in this process is to sit down and meet with a probation officer to talk about whether he has remorse, what went on here and they are supposed to talk to the crime victims of the crime and here there is no crime victim. there is no one to talk to which goes further to show absurdity of this situation. you indicted and convicted the former president of the united states and have no crime victim in the criminal justice system, another absurdity and that will add to the appeal, even though not legally relevant something appellate court pay attention to. >> carley: in new york, there is sentencing on july el11 and the trump's lawyers can appeal. thank you for your insight, have a great day. happening today, kansas city chiefs celebrating their super bowl win at white house as biden administration tip toes around the harrison butker controversy. >> todd: and breakin

courts would look that the appellant courts would iook very— that the appellant courts would look verythe courts— evidentiary issues that the courts would look seriously at, including — courts would look seriously at, including the testimony by stormy— including the testimony by stormy daniels that included some — stormy daniels that included some very salacious details about— some very salacious details about her encounter with donald trumo — about her encounter with donald trumo i— about her encounter with donald trump. i don't think those ultimately would prevail on appeal. _ ultimately would prevail on appeal, primarily because donald _ appeal, primarily because donald trump did not object in a timely— donald trump did not object in a timely manner when she was testifying — a timely manner when she was testifying to them, but i think those — testifying to them, but i think those two areas would be the primary— those two areas would be the primary grounds for the appeal. joe moreno, i know you don't think that this case will continue, you think the appeal might be successful, but c

then it will go to the appellate division, which is the intermediate appellate court in new york. and then they will set a briefing schedule. that will take months, if not years. >> it's a long process. laura, let me turn to you for a moment. this is one of four different criminal cases we've been watching against the former president. talk through where the other cases stand, if we'll likely see another trial before the election. >> lester, it's only one of four, but it may be the only one to see completion before the november election. the others have been bogged down in appeals and delays, perhaps the most serious the one about trying to overturn the last election, that federal case in washington, d.c., still up on appeal with the supreme court trying to decide if the former president is immune from prosecution at all. we also had the other case about trying to overturn the last election in georgia. that one's on appeal because the district attorney there is being challenged on ethical grounds. and then of course we have the one about the former president trying to hoard classi

there is a lot to go over here but i want to start with this appeal decision from the first appellate division on the gag order i have it right here. >> kayleigh: let me sum this up, we have a picture politifact, this is michael cohen, what is he wearing? he is wearing a shirt depicting the former president donald trump behind bars. so he can wear this on tiktoker talk all about the trials but donald trump cannot respond. this is what they found, donald trump's documented speech is demonstrated will -- i am wondering what the functioning of a national presidential election of one of which they serial with a gag order that is inextricable from the d.c. case. this child has a direct bearing on a presidential election where free speech and political speech should be at its penultimate level but no, according to the appellate division he cannot speak. >> paul: of course political speech is your articulate, remember something else as well, while the jury is not sequestered they have been instructed not to even imbibe on any media relative to the case, so theoretically what are we protectin

so it's going to go on appeal in the appellate court won't know more than we have in terms of knowledge to what is an election violation, and other falsification of documents? at tax violation? that is just simply not in the record. >> sean: let me bring you in here, this was the point that jonathan made and i've made over and over again, jury had been told dozens and dozens of times that the payments were campaigned by violations especially enclosing that six are closing, the judge left all of that go uncontradicted in this case. then you have the issue of the 4-4-4 where he's guilty you could have one group thinking he's guilty for four think he's guilty, four for whatever. that's a direct violation of the us supreme court decision, 2020 decision. but again this was a loud. i believe it's overturned on appeal to when is the appeal can happen? did you see anything like this. your prosecutor, i don't think you ever lost a case. >> the jury was unanimous in the lack of unanimity. you are right, i tried cases where i had to prove an additional crime, every death penalty case you have to p

great appellant lawyers he has in will sharp appeal this as soon as possible they are doing but we knownot a resolution most likely until after election as kellyanne said going forward got momentum the real verdict is happening on election day the country, knows that, and i think as kellyanne said every state as i swing state. >> great conversation pam bondi thanks very much for joining us please come back soon we need more time with you kellyanne kevin lot to talk about you are with me the rest of the hour we are grateful for that just getting started a quick break the republican national convention four days after trump's sentencing is it possible? republicans would move the convention that is being talked about, arkansas governor o former presidential candidate mike huckabee here with reaction don't miss a moment you are watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. we'll be right back. . . limb loss. call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of infection in your legs or feet. taking jardiance with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. ♪ jardiance is real

>> it is not the final say but it is significant that the appellate court upheld the order. i say that because we see the appellate court hasn't upheld all of the decisions of the judges in the cases related to trump. we saw the appellate decision modify the bond amount, the civil fraud case, so it is not like they have been rubber stamping everything related to trump. that's a separate case. but nevertheless, i think this is a vindication for trump merchan's gag order that it was upheld at this stage and i think that's going to really lay the ground work for judge merchan to feel more confident sanctioning trump further for violation of the order. >> in the last couple of times that the former president has spoken during a break or after, he seemed to be more reading from notes and kind of limiting what he's saying about the people that are included in that gag order. >> it sure seems to be. and even on his truth social network, which i may be the only person who looked at it, in the country, the messages are clear and they're repetitive and they're limited to attacking the

um we appealed it up to the appellate level. the appellate court made an initial decision to allow this past november election to proceed as it has for the last previous four elections. we're going to be in front of that court soon. stay tuned. we'll see what happens. it was good to hear that the city was able to reach a settlement with the center for medicare and medicaid services are meant laguna honda could still operate. how did you manage to reach that agreement? it was not an easy conversation . just a little bit of background. so laguna honda has been an incredibly important institution in san francisco for 150 years, taking care of our most vulnerable patients are frail, very elderly patients, many of whom are at end of life. and a few years ago, there were some issues in that hospital. some violations of rules that we very much want to make sure don't get violated. there were folks that weren't using proper ppe, who are bringing cigarette lighters into the facility, who might have brought some contraband into the facili

i'm sure an appellate review will follow. >> bill: he is talking slowly and quietly.ould be used as a youtube sleep aid. i haven't tried that one. back to the serious stuff. the burden of proof is on the people. not the defendant. did the state make its case? >> which is great. he also said that whatever your feelings are, set your biases aside and really just look at the facts. another really key reminder. >> bill: if you are not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt you must not find the defendant guilty. if you're convinced you must find the defendant guilty. >> a great reminder. >> they have to be given in every case. the idea that the defendant has the benefit of the burden. the jury is reminded of that over and over again. so there are certain things that the judge has to give. some of these bigger issues on the elements of the offenses that i think the real legal analysts are expressing their concern over. >> dana: we have a criminal defense attorney joining us. great to have you with us. we haven't heard from you yet but how do you think the jury instructions ar

almost all of them appointed by democrat governors over time and it is a stacked deck in the appellateeferential as to what happened at the trial level, there's different standards they view different dishes through but those standards are all odds against the defendant at that stage but cases are overturned all the time, great success in some of our appeals so you have to be cautious when calling a felon now and saying lock him up. if it turns out you are campaigning on that and voting against him for that and then the election happens, how fair do you feel the election was if this was the convicted felon donald trump for a few months and later on it is overturned and he gets a new shot and gets acquitted or cleared of offenses. neil: makes you wonder. thank you very much, good seeing you. it has been busy. in the meantime we are focusing on markets, can't lose sight of that, had a good news report on inflation and how to go from the trump trial to a very obscure inflation report but believe me there is no connection, after this. ♪ power of thinkorswim, the award-winning trading platf

so it will go up the appellate court system, if you will. but in new york, in new york. okay. and i say that because the only way that the us supreme court can touch this is if at the end of appealing this up, the new york, chain, if you will, judicial chain, the us supreme court thinks there's a federal constitutional issue at stake. that's a long shot is possible. but the appellate system, largely for former president trump, will not be related to the us courts. and as professor levine said earlier, if the conviction sticks because it's a state, event, a state, found guilty situation, he cannot overturn that as president, okay, so it's a state event. larry, thank you so much. thank you for your insight and your time, as always. really appreciate it. i was going to say state situation, but from coast to coast reaction as you could imagine, is pouring in on trump's guilty verdict. and that includes in washington, d.c, where political leaders and lawmakers are weighing in. so let's go ahead and bring in nbc's alice barr live on capitol hill for us today. alice, what are you hea