it the apple fense is known for the backend and it's hard to get after peyton manning.the ball so quickly and are so muc intrigue in ts game. going a long way towards being that. >> that's right. they even got a lot of attention. but they have to be pretty good. >> very underrated and a lot of people say that peyton manning gets rid of the football so quickly and that is why they look good. but lately they have been controlling that running the football very well. i think it's a very unheralded and underrated unit steel and you want to give us your pick? >> i like the denver broncos. a fantastic team. going down to the very end, i do like he'd manning. he's an unbelievable season and a great season coming back. i think it's his time. lou: we want to redeem and we know that we will did a game that is great. and i want to stay objective and neutral. >> we don't like seattle right now. [laughter] and it is worthwhile. every thing we can. check it out on sunday. game time is :30 p.m. eastern. tune in five hours before that. we're coming right back. >> president obama and hi