i bought one of the earliest ones, i learned to program on the apple iie.ly: then you went on to start your own company. you started a social network before social networks, right? it was called social net. 1997? reid: social net had some of the right ideas. it had the idea of having a profile, the idea of discoverability. it had the idea of having some kind of social controls on how you would meet strangers. but it didn't have the fundamental network idea. it didn't have the fundamental real identity idea. emily: you then went on to the paypal mafia. who called who? how did that happen? reid: i called peter, and peter said, we are going to actually probably going to sell paypal. we don't have a business model at the time. but it would be really useful for us, because you know all of this stuff, could you come help us organize the company and sell it? if i could be helpful, i would be happy to step in and do that. we did not sell it, we took it public and sold it to ebay after we took it public. and so what was supposed to be a six-month tour of duty turned