at the time, and i tried to do a deal with aptoll put a radio inside the apple newton and make that into a smart phone and they weren't so interested and i went across the street to palm and i was carrying my apple newton and i thought this probably wasn't the best thing but i was using it to take my notes. they had a palm pilot brochure shaped like a palm pilot. i scotch taped it on top of my newton and i put down and they're like, othe, "okay, we'll talk to you." it all worked out. i believed in the notion of connected devices. i was sitting on a beach in maui and they just turned on the cellular system we created and i had this device with me. and there was an old search engine alta vista. and i typed in "maui sushi." and i got the best soucep restaurant in if maui. these things are dead. the future really is connected devices. this was the end of the 90, '97, '98 time frame. >> rose: now we're on the eve of 2013. where are we going? >> oh, there are a lot of opportunities for us. obviously, the smart phone, you know, trend is is going to continue. it's growing like crazy. and no