apple or samsung? let's find out from david garrity. what is your choice here, apple or samsung? >> our choice hands down is apple. the september 2014 time frame with the introduction of the iphone 6 which will be a larger screened phone. a product category that samsung has dominated. the expectation, if apple is coming up with a bigger phone, you can see a fairly substantial upgrade not only out of apple's current customers but brands like sum sang. >> david, if somebody has new money they want to invest in a stock, you say put it in apple over samsung. why and how much growth you can expect in your investment over the next year. >> oh, we think bottom line looking at probably an 18 to 20% upside. a price level of about $107 a share including your dividend income but we would say more important, the earnings acceleration coming from the new product introductions and note that ahead of that, we're looking at a situation where for samsung, even though we do look for upside over the next 12 months, for samsung we note the company has been missing expe expectations and ramped down th

many tech analysts say the company isn't interested in challenging apple or samsung for device supremacyor market share, but to give customers a direct handheld link to shop for groceries, consumer goods and more on amazon. >> amazon wants its hand in your wallet. at the present times to reach out and say, hey, it's going to be extremely easy for you to buy content for us, stream movies, stream music, and this device is one more way to do that. >> reporter: so the basic concept is that old economics formula where you give people the razor, and then you sell them razor blades forever. that, we think, is what this phone might be. it will be phone, it will be handheld device, and it will also be a means by which people can shop very quickly, people can get downloads of amazon-branded content, et cetera. here's the book, the cheer little children's book that jeff sent to us all with a printed notice with his autograph on there. apparently his favorite book, and we expect him to be on hand and enlighten us all about what this new device will be. >> alan, fascinating he didn't unveil it in the

they are not a global power but the product could be disruptive to someone like apple or samsung. >> they cut out the middleman. >> they saved a lot of money. they really don't advertise. it's one of the first technology companies to grow up relying almost solely on social media. the big question is, can they port it over to other countries? >> the google dna that runs through this company is very interesting. from your standpoint, what do you see about this company that has taken notes from google? >> that's a great question. there definitely is a flavor of commoditizing the layer and giving it away. they are not giving away the hardware, but they cannot be making much margin on this, and they are ok with that. it is very much dependent on the android ecosystem and being able to be compatible with it. android is a popular o.s. it's very important for xiaomi to stay in sync with google and android. >> if it had not reorganized its organization, you can have fewer android in china with apps like google maps, do you think it would be as successful as it is? >> i do think so. i certainl

be disruptiveld to somebody like apple or samsung. >> part of that is selling direct to consumers. are no can -- retailers. >> that is a 25% margin. they also don't advertise. they grow up relying on social media. that is attracted to the star power. that is a big question. can they translate that to other countries? >> the google dna that runs to this happening is interesting. standpoint, what do you see about this company that has taken notice from google? >> that is a great question. there is a flavor. it is commoditizing a layer and giving it away. xiaomi is not given away the hardware. they can't be very much market on this -- margin on this. xiaomi is dependent on the android ecosystem and being compatible with it. product.s a google is a flavor variant of top of that. it is very important to stay in sync with google and android. >> let me ask you a question. if google was a more active participate -- or to submit in china, if they can have pure android in chana -- china, would be as successful as it is? >> i think so. i do think so. i certainly think that the mui is the othe

they are not a global power yet, but that business model could be disruptive to someone like apple or samsung. >> part of that business mo del is selling direct to customers. >> they save a lot of money. 25% margin that the retailer is taking. they don't advertise. one of the first technology companies to grow up relying on social media. it has attracted the founding team's star power. can import that over to other countries? the google dna that runs through this company is very interesting to me. i wonder, from your standpoint, what do you see about this company that has taken its notes from google? >> there definitely is a flavor of commoditizing a layer and giving it away. they are not giving away the hardware. most people speculate that they can't be making much margin on this. they're ok with that. is very much dependent on the android ecosystem and being able to be compatible with it. backed os.a google actually, the miui is a layer on top of that. >> if google was a more active participant in the chinese ecosystem, if it hadn't reorganized its operations. if you could have your android

they are going to have to do a lot of work to get people to move away from apple or samsung. >> it isot super cheap. paul, what is your first impression of this phone? the 3-d features. the six cameras. is it more than a gimmick? >> i got motion sick just looking at the pictures of the pictures. no, i hated so much i feel i must be wrong. that i'm just plain missing something really important. it struck me as a couple of novelty features, solving a problem that amazon has, not solving any problems for consumers. it is not particularly aggressively priced. the key feature being largely irrelevant to most people. i can't get it at all. jeff is way smarter than i am. clearly i missing something important but i don't know what it is. >> joe, who is going to buy this phone? who is going to give up their iphone, their android phone, to buy a fire phone? is there a person you can imagine? >> i don't think anyone is going to give up their android or iphone. people who don't have a smartphone yet maybe are interested in the guidance that mayday will give you. you look at the kindle fire, which

apple and samsung. >> they make up a large portion of the revenue. if they lose a contract with apple or samsung, that adds risk. the chart's amazing, fundamentals are fantastic. i know you want to be in it. >> they also are getting into mobile shopping. mobile shopping is going to account for 11% of e-commerce shopping by 2010. charles: 90% of our household now. >> i'm into that. the internet of everything like matt just said, it depends whether or not people want to embrace, it so far they are, that's the only caveat. charles: people don't have a choice. up next, folklore says black cats are bad luck. on wall street, black swans are devastating. call in a market crash by predicting the unpredictable. we'll explain when we come back. we're moving our company to new york state. the numbers are impressive. over 400,000 new private sector jobs... making new york state number two in the nation in new private sector job creation... with 10 regional development strategies to fi your business needs. and now it's even better because they've introduced startup new york... with the state creating

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many tech analysts say the company isn't necessarily interested in challenging apple or samsung for devicextremacy or refc packet share but giving customers a direct handheld link so they can shop for groceries, consumer goods and more on amazon sdmrfrp amazon doesn't so much want the smart phone in your pocket. it wants its hand in your wallet. it wants to be able to reach out and say, it is going to be extremely easy for you to buy cop tent if us, for you to stream movies, stream music and this device is one more way for you to do that. >> amazon's geoff bezos is expected to host the rollout later this morning. alan shaufller, al jazeera, seattle. >> time for the sports news. here is farrah. >> thank you. day 6 hosts brazil in action for the second time against a team that has troubled them in the past. mexico. in group, belgium and russia face korea. richard nickelson reports. >> algeria came into the match against the bell januarys having not scored a goal in the world cup since 1986. they ended that 24 minutes into their match when they were awarded a penalty. midfielder faguli pickin

>> you either need a brand that is already established like apple or samsung -- amazon doesn't have that have to have a low price. i think over time the price of this is going to come down pretty quickly. >> $200 is not enough right now, but over time. >> $200 is a lot with the conventional contract. >> tune in later today because emily chang will have interviews with john leger as well as the john jen. ceo, you don't want to miss it. up, believe it or not, this marijuana is owned by the federal government. >> we are approaching 26 past the hour so it is time for bloomberg's on the market. one place we want to highlight his american apparel. this ceo has faced accusations of sexual harassment. the firm's largest outside investor says he expects journey -- mark his firing and charney to fight his firing and that could be a prelude to a sale. i don't think we have heard the i really down. >> he is not the kind of guy to go gently into the night. >> coming up, what do investors know that we don't? we will see why the money is pouring in. ♪ >> live from bloomberg headquarters in new york, th

. >> many tech analysts say the company isn't necessarily interested in challenging apple or samsung for device supremecy, but giving a direct link to shop on amazon. >> amazon doesn't want its smart phone in your pact, it wants its hand in your wallet, to reach out and say it is going to be extremely easy for you to buy content from us, to stream movies, music, and this device is one more way for you to do that. >> amazon is expected to host the rollout later this morning. >> getting people to make that cell phone switch could be a pretty tough sell. 168 million people already own smart phones in the u.s. i think they're kind of attached to them. >> we're now getting aerial views of the devastation caused by tornadoes and flooding after storms slammed nebraska and iowa on monday. a pair of tornadoes leveling the village in nebraska, debris littered farm fields for miles and to the north in iowa, five inches of rain causing the rock river to overflow. the town looks like an island with flooded roads blocking access to homes and businesses. >> oh, my god! oh, my god! >> tornadoes ripp

. >> finally, on the camera side, now that gopro has seen success, why can't apple or samsung make aally, it's pace of innovation. you can copy somebody else's product, and by the time you do, you're a year behind. can they keep the pace of innovation in can they continue and leap beyond the current technology for imaging? i think that's where the barrier will be. phones, camcorders, all running into the same limitations, eventually, of optics, censors, and form factor. there's a need for innovation in the space, absolutely. >> thank you for your perspective. still awaiting the trade. the co-founder of flip. >> thank you very much. >>> ignore yesterday's gdp number at your own risk. markets in the red this morning and an exclusive take on why you should take risks off the table, talking with barclay's chee economist, and we're awaiting gopro's first trade on the nasdaq. it's all coming upright he righn cnbc. thank ythank you for defendiyour sacrifice. and thank you for your bravery. thank you colonel. thank you daddy. military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legac

and people like to buy a phone from somebody they think is a device maker, like an apple or a samsung that's a fair point. we'll have to see what happens. >> erickson, weren't they a maker. >>> don't forget to tune into "amazon rising" sunday, june 29th, 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific. interesting show, i am sure, there. >>> breaking news. let's look at the stock, 325.90. it's taken a major drop, 15 cents lower now, morgan. 325.79. we're awaiting the start of the launch event. we're also, of course counting down to the fed, the latest statement and economic forecast, and then rover janet yellen's news conference. we're going to take a quick break and bring you back to tackle these two big stories for wednesday. so what i'm saying is, people like options. when you take geico, you can call them anytime you feel like saving money. it don't matter, day or night. use your computer, your smartphone, your tablet, whatever. the point is, you have options. oh, how convenient. hey. crab cakes, what are you looking at? geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance

he does not want a google or in an -- or an apple oriented caps the- or a samsung to be only one.n amazoncessful can phone b? is the kindle fire that successful? >> perhaps not. the kindle fire tv, maybe not yet. we are getting closer to jeff bezos's comments, which we will have some of that here during bloomberg west. forsuccess could be varying amazon. they could make a difference as far as how much they sell for the rest of their services, whether it is the consumption of video or the purchasing of cap food. whatever people are using amazon for. we probably won't know. they have not told us how many candles they have sold, let alone kindle fire tv. there's a lot that amazon does not reveal about their business. we probably will never know how successful their phone is, if they do indeed stick with it. seattle.ohnson in we will take you inside the event in just a moment. stay with us. we will be right back. ♪ >> welcome back. i'm emily chang. we turn now to our wiring the world series where we look at how tech is shaping the future of health care. doctors around the world have c

apple. they're going to be samsung or htc. right? >> this is probably more, don't you think, about, where they may a lot of their money from prime memberships? >> get the $99 back from the purchase of the price. not having to buy the prime. >> now you're in the prime and betting that you'll stay. >> and -- >> prime is a great thing. >> a game-changer and could hurt the other retailers. exactly what murph are and steve have said. >>> blackberry is soaring after beating estimates on both the top and bottom line. is this the beginning of a turnaround story? let's debate that. today we want you to decide the winner in realtime as well. rear launching a brand new voting tool. here's how it works. logon to cnbc.com/vote on your computer, phone or tablet. do it now. click on the trader you think is winning the debate and the votes will be displayed in realtime at the bottom of the screen. you can also vote as many times as you want. but only during the 90 seconds of the debate. let's get to it. again, jon is the blackberry bull. mike is the

or threatened by it? the hand set makers like samsung and apple or the content players like netflix and hulu?rtunity to put developers in touch with mobile consumers, and i think a.m.son has done a lot on the mobile developer side in helping app developers scale their businesses, but i think what it could do better for them is help them with distribution. i would say, you know, launching the phone while i wouldn't expect the phone to necessarily be a huge event by itself today, i think their entry into the market place is fairly important, and i think that you can expect amazon to continue to it rate and stay very focused on what the product will ultimately look like. >> well, it's about the content offerings, e-commerce. is this like what we have seen before, not actually making money on the actual hand set, devices, the hardware, and going straight into the system of everything amson? >> if it is a success, you probably expect it to come out of gross margins. wouldn't have too much impact on the growth profit dollar growth, but i would expect for them to say, as they pursue this, there will

or samsung's ecosystem. samsung is trying to build up its own media system versus apple. ware build quality, you wouldn't be ashamed walking down the street with this, pulling this out in a meeting or coffee shop. the thinness, the lightness, and the screen quality too. haven't had a chance to test out battery life. it looks pretty good. >> i can imagine you taking a giant phone call on that smaller one. well, it doesn't have cellular, but you can bet that samsung will be out with a phone this size in just a few weeks. i'm kidding. but not really, but i'm kidding. but not really. >> you never know until you know. jon fortt, thanks for bringing that to us. >>> cnbc is unveiling its second annual disrupter 50 list. even the most disruptive ideas sometimes fall flat. julia boorstin joins us with one company that made the list in the past and probably won't make it again because the big factor is one that can drive a disrupter fail. julia, what's behind this? >> sometimes a disrupter idea is so good it's coopted by a giant. making that original start-up irrelevant. last year,

is it in the low end, low cost models, the android topics, or is there opportunity from the likes of apple and samsung? >> there are like five tiers in the market. that is the biggest opportunity in the emerging markets because realize so many people don't have access to the internet. using the operator's network. and that's something which is growing, we've launched this now in five countries. and we provide content services like english courses, french courses. in zambia, 50% of the subscribers there subskrooip scribe. a smartphone doesn't have to be very smart to provide services. >>> in could you corporate news, the takeover battle receives an offer for its energy arm. the updated offer is roadway vamped bid for monday's decision with ge as monday's deadline nears. it is ul to alstom and the firm itself says it will convene its board no later than monday to review the sxwrup dated offers. >>> and more m&a for you, uk drugmaker shire is trading higher in london after news of a bid approach from abbvie. shire rejected its latest offer of more than 46 pounds a share, which would value the uk company

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you hear private equities make sense, samsung and people used to speculate a loening time ago, apple would make interesting sense. if they want to do wound the other, or on the other, you have to understand, nuance is the voice recognition technology behind, you know, that both of them use. samsung certainly using it in the tvs, apple uses it behind siri and its phones. microsoft and google have their own technology build in. you can see how this hole thing can go, but that said. without at deal it's back -- which had organic growth that is been negative for the past five straight quarters. >> is that because voice recognition is on every phone already, if you have a smartphone? let me excel it a different way. would a huge new product cycle change your view on the name? >> no. because it's a commodity that's already -- the manufacturers, we're really talking apple is the big manufacturer here. you know, really driving down costs, keeping it down. i think that you have to look at it from the perspective of, you know, yes, it's already there. the big story, by the way, if you were to talk to nuance, what they would say, that i'm not telling, they have

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apple announcement yesterday with the latest software features? was it a google, maybe one of the social players? or perhaps a samsung that competes on hardware? t with something new as far as how it's going to impact their existing business. you can talk about some of the social or google when talking about search and trying to skim a little bit on not having you to go to google and say search within safari or text messaging, add all the functionality is that going to hurt operators around the world or the large text messaging over the top services that companies are spending billions of dollars for. >> walt, what do you make of this between them and microsoft? is it long-lasting? who's in a position of strength versus the two players? >> which again? >> this day tant between them and microsoft, building of a bridge between the two? >> i think microsoft is they've tried on the handsets on the recode conference they're shifting more towards other products almost recognizing on the hand seth side of things it hasn't gone that well for them. so i think maybe it's a daytant but in apple's case all they care about is selling new phones and new prod

apple just rolled out health kits. samsung is trying to do the same thing. is there one company that can make this more mainstream? oru think it will come from the outside? >> the most exciting stuff is always going to come from startups. we are able to take more crazy risks. we have no brand to lose. happens inovation small, but impactful chunks. i think apple did a great thing by essentially putting a stamp of approval on the whole market by saying, hey, we will be behind these efforts. >> how optimistic are you about an apple i watch? >> i think it will be beautiful. >> i don't really care. i care that it happens. and i think max is right. it will be a startup that we approve of on the one hand. on the other, we need more long-term money. the laguna has our long-term interests at heart -- the only thing that has our long-term interests at heart is insurance companies. even we do not think long-term enough. if you order them online, you order more healthy food. you know the old saying, don't go shopping when you are hungry -- it is really true. but again, that skews up the middle class. that is one of the challenge

. >> we saw samsung announce a fitness band demo a couple of days before the last apple announcement. do you think we will see a lot of partner products or potential products? >> that is a great question. how they approach and position the product will be key. it could be an android wearable made by samsung or a samsung wearable that has android on it. there's a subtle difference in the two and how they market it will be a big piece of how the roddick is positioned. -- how the product is positioned. there is a significant amount of integration going on between the various operating systems that apple has. there is subtle integration facets. the ecosystem is coming together. wearablesd and the are positioned on the competitive side will be important. >> in terms of tomorrow's big show, do you expect a lot of buzz from developers? everyone has been so google glass. that was the real excitement factor couple of years ago when sergei brin was making a big splash. >> he parachuted into the event last time, two years ago. >> he didn't but he got us excited about watching somebody do that. >> that's good delegating. function.tive >> there you g

you think there's a chance that a competitor like samsung or pebble can take note and quicklied a just their products to be more competitive before applehe market? >> certainly smartphones before the iphone came out and it changed the category and there were smartphones that came out after the iphone. amazon is trying a little bit late in the game in here with their own product. and apple continues to succeed in the markets that they're targeting. so if you do things better you're going to get market share and you're going to get customers to buy your products. the case of the smartphone i think mark at 9 to 5 mac has done a great job at profiling the acquisitions of people that they've been making in the medical device area that maybe this is something that's new and different that samsung or someone like that just can't catch up with that quickly. >> maybe the way to think about this is if they sell a bunch of watches, even if they don't make a bunch of money off the watches themselves they encroach on android's territory and sell more iphones. maybe it's a trojan's horse for increased market share. >> do you go along with that? >> l

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or two, that could be mostly done. samsung just came out with a new line of tablets. apple end of the year. thus far, they haven't done the job. new products might need more of a push. microsoft office now available on ios. yes, intel is doing very well right now. they're cutting down r&d expenses. they're basically laying off engineers and their margins are looking better as a result. they haven't solved mobile. they have a lot of work to do to turn this company around. >> i love that you brought up mobile. i would point out, john, we're not just seeing the impact in shares of intel. hewlett packard is up 3.7%. microsoft shares are up 2.5%, roughly. last quarter, hue let park yard, the last couple of quarters has says we're seeing more signs of stability and strength on the corporate side of pcs. >> yeah. people bet against the pc market a little bit more than a year ago. there's a lot of inventory out there. and so, you know, intel and others didn't benefit from that because inventories were being brought down as people and companies bought pcs. now those inventories stil

or two ago about apple. one of the things i think a lot about is -- one reason they needed to buy that is because they did not want samsung. they needed a cool factor. even though they have the market way below -- they are really good. not as good as apple, but they are relentless. they restore their focus on this market. apple will do well as well. >> apple is struggling now. >> in the u.s., it is getting a little saturated. but it is a global market. would've of the biggest business opportunities is technology. globally for smartphones. >> and our number one photo -- a rally in the capital city of brazil for the world cup. behind theirnding shields during the demonstration yesterday. what we did not see lester during the confederation cup was the police moved much more aggressively, small crowds, acting fast. making sure they shut this down before it happened. it was a lot bigger last year. >> did you watch the game yesterday? the match, sorry. >> it was boring and they gave it to brazil. >> i will not say anything. could get very far in this torment because of what you just saw two seconds ago. >> did you watch the wor

by the phone makers, the phone providers, the apple, samsungs and gock hims that have their own ecommerce ambitions. >> john, can amazon compete with apple orle when it comes to the talent, man power, the engineers to build something truly competitive? >> yes, it can. it doesn't take tens of thousands of engineers to get the right product. it takes the right engineers. out in the market place, amazon doesn't have to compete with apple and amsung. they're in a different game. amazon has economies of scale for hardware to keep their costs relatively if check. they have the kind him, kinle fire, the fire tvs as well. so that's not really the issue as much. what amazon needs. >> you can't hear that? what do you think that is? >> i don't know. >> do you have an at&t or airplane mode? >> i hope they can stop it. they can't listen to you. there you go. turn off all my wireless. >> are you not in airplane mode yet. >> what else do you got? >> there you go. >> i don't know what's going on. >> maybe it's -- everything is off. everything is off. >> we love you, tow, maybe it's mac. anyway, but more importantly, so this is going to build on top of andr