. >> reporter: director chris applebaum witnessed the breakup firsthand while on set filming her musicected." >> in fact, she's in tears. she's crying. she's still like a juicy, couture sweat suit and i could immediately tell something was wrong. i asked her if everything was okay, and she said, no, things are not okay. because look. and she held out her flip phone. and i saw this text which said, "it's over." which was from her boyfriend at the time, justin timberlake. >> juju: with time running out and a shoot day, applebaum had to make a decision. >> seemed like that was the end of the video shoot. and i acknowledged that with everybody. and said, you know, i completely understand. but on the other hand, if you feel like you want to get out there and show him that he just lost the best thing that he ever had -- let's do it. 10 or 15 minutes later, she came out and she was on fire. ♪ i don't need nobody telling me ♪ this was the britney that everybody knows and loves. ♪ overprotected ♪ >> juju: despite the strength she showed that day, she reveals now in the book for the first time t

and now about the second article of this applebaum in the atlantic magazine, which is completely calledpposed in content, due to lack of , so to speak, time, well, just thesis , no, uh, well, firstly, what - again - completely ridiculous numbers, what russia lost... russia has 88,000 killed, 180,000 wounded, the fact that ukraine, well, yes, the counter-offensive is a little slow, but what successes in the black sea. forced, forced the russian federation to withdraw a couple of ships from sevastopol, a big victory, that there is no question of freezing the conflict according to the korean scenario there, even with the deployment, with guarantees from the americans, up to the deployment of bases in ukraine, the main thing is to defeat russia, despite the fact that the republicans are obstructing only to annoy biden. it is necessary, so to speak, to give zaluzhny everything that zelensky has, zaluzhny all they ask is to arm them to the teeth, then ukraine , so to speak, will go on another offensive, and russia will be defeated, the main thing is to defeat russia, well, i don’t know, if wi

want to thank , thank ukraine, this was an outstanding gesture of support, you reminded me that applebaum recently wrote that ukraine, the united states, the european union, have achieved something outstanding by working together , we not only preserved the ukrainian state, but also rebelled against whether nihilism threatens the whole world, and your highness, tell the ukrainian society whether you believe that we will win, in ukraine, we have a special connection between ukraine and israel, and you, as lesya said ukrainian woman, you fought in ukraine as in israel , and ukraine has unwavering solidarity and support of israel when it was barbaric, attacked by hamas, while the israelis helped. russian aggression to ukraine, holocaust meant mass extermination of people or death by fire, holodomor means killing by starvation, your highness, what are your thoughts on the origin and consequences of the holodomor genocide, what parallels can you draw here, thank you very much, danyla, and thank you for . that recalled the terrorist attack on israel on october 7. the holocaust you mentioned hap

and now about the second article by this applebaum in the atlantic magazine, which is completely entitledtrically opposite in content, due to lack of, so to speak, time, well, just thesis, no, well, firstly, some again, completely ridiculous numbers, what russia lost, there were 88,000 killed, 180,000 wounded, what ukraine , well, yes, the counteroffensive is a little slow, but what successes on the black sea forced, forced a conflict according to the korean scenario there, even with the deployment of americans with guarantees up to the deployment of bases in ukraine, is out of the question, the main thing is to defeat russia, despite the fact that the republicans are hindering only to annoy biden, ukraine, so to speak , will go on another offensive, and russia will be defeated, the main thing is to defeat russia, well, i don’t know if, with such spells, this journalist is trying, so to speak, to mobilize american public opinion for support. well, crazy politics, then as they say, what the hell is this fool? i don’t even know what we ’re talking about? that is, well, just every gopher is

this is, first of all , pulitzer prize winner ann applebaum.xtremist fbk, she herself is married to the former head of the polish foreign ministry, who is known for his ardent russophobic position. well, she was accompanied by former swedish prime minister carl bilt, who compared the russian special operation to protect donbass with hitler’s attack on poland, but also in this company from kiev. journalist natalya guminyuk, she is responsible for the strategy of ukrainian tv, that is, in essence, for how to rivet fakes based on modern facts, and now, together with another trustee, this is cnn reporter fareed zakaria, they will take on the facts historically and their fraud, there is this project, in general as you can call it, this is such a historical nato, yes, that’s how nato supplies ukraine with shells, instructors , money, everything down to socks and hats for winter soldiers, and so this international assistance testifies to such, you know, bankruptcy ukrainian historiography, because it turned out that ukrainian historians themselves, de

joint trustees, read the curators of the new research, this is primarily pulitzer prize winner anne applebaumollaborated with the extremist fbk, she herself is married to the former head of the polish foreign ministry, who is known for her. ardent russophobic position, well, she was accompanied by the former prime minister of sweden carl bilt, who compared the russian special operation to protect donbass with hitler’s attack on poland, and also in this company is the kiev journalist natalya guminyuk, she is responsible for the strategy of the ukrainian tv, that is essentially for how to rivet fakes based on modern facts, and now, together with another trustee, this is cnn reporter fareed zakaria, they will take on historical facts and their manipulation. there is this project, whatever you can call it, it’s such a historical nato, but somehow it supplies ukraine with shells, instructors, money, everything down to socks, hats, and for winter soldiers, so this international assistance testifies about this, you know, bankruptcy of ukrainian historiography, because it turned out that you yourself

. >> joining me now, anne applebaum, staff writer at the atlantic, author of twilight of democracy. so much for being here. this is such an important conversation. i think we have to have it over and over again to underscore what is at stake. i hate to actually play trump sound. i hate giving him any space. i think it's important for our viewers to see, it's his words. to hear the people cheering, frankly, too, while he says them. why does trump use words like rmin to describe his opponents? >> the word for, men which has indeed been used in the past, famously, it was used by hitler to describe jews. it was actually, i'm speaking to you today from poland. there was a famous poster here during the second world war put up by the germans that showed jews as lice. we understand very deeply what this law expression means. with vermin, what it implies, these people are in human. they're not people. they're not, we don't have to respect them. they don't have any rights. you, know vermin are something that you crush. like wheat. any dictator, any leader, any collective leader that uses lang

you want to see what that second term is going to look like, all you have to do is read what anne applebaumcy" during donald trump's first term, when she explained that with all these authoritarian leaders, you actually have competence being replaced by loyalty. the incompetence is not a buck. like, authoritarian leaders want incompetent people running -- >> correct. >> -- their bureaucracies because their loyalty will override everything else. >> speaking of incompetence, by the way, beyond fascism, if you want women's rights, if you want women's health care regarding abortion access and other related women's health care, you're not going to get it. it'll continue to get worse for women. >> donald trump has bragged that he is the one who terminated roe v. wade. >> that's right. he and leonard leo did that. >> again, we're talking about a freedom that americans have had for 50 years. >> yeah. >> taken away by donald trump. here's the crazy thing, he's bragging about it. he is bragging about terminating the right of women to have freedom over their bodies, over their life, over the most pers