steve: yeah, it's hard to -- emily: how optimistic are you about an applecar?teve: by the year 2022. emily: apple's thing is to do what somebody has already done, but do it better. and different. do you think they can do it? steve: sometimes they do, but sometimes they don't. that watch is not really grabbing me, or the newton. they have a few misses. emily: you are not a fan of the apple watch? steve: no. battery life, for me. i have a lot of watches and actually wear them. and i cannot fathom, in personal use, the charging issue. emily: do you think that tesla should focus more on lower-priced, more mainstream electric cars? i mean, the model 3, which is supposed to cost $35,000, but that is the base price. steve: that is a great question. that is their long-term vision. you either have many, many billions of dollars to put into equipment to mass produce something of that scale, or you do it in iterations. you take the current model s, which is arguably a very expensive vehicle. if you factor in the cost of ownership over five or seven years, fuel or maintena