we know it is applicable to the extended hours. however, the questions you are asking are multiple and legal. so i just don't have the answers for you. but i did pose them to the city attorney and in the meantime, i don't think that the applicant is unable to run his trade -- his business is not impacted and he is aware that we are, you know, holding it but hopefully for not longer. commissioner meko: there is a pattern here, let's be very blunt where he has been cited for not having permitted pool table and pin ball machines and that's what this is about. >> i think he was given simply a notice of violation. he was not cited. commissioner meko: by our department. >> correct. commissioner meko: and the planning department has discovered a structural complaint which we have never had to deal with, with another venue that has come before this commission in our eight years. >> any -- is -- i don't really know how to respond to this. again, there should be any implication that anything's happening that isn't completely transparent. i a

are all three applicants submitting their applications today? did you hear from any of the applicants? has anybody withdrawn? >> i have not received any notification, but i can check with our office to see whether or not anybody has withdrawn. supervisor kim: that would be great. we heard two weeks ago from two of our applicants, dorothy liu and allen grossman. they have already presented, and we have had a chance and opportunity to ask questions. i wonder of my colleagues would like to ask questions of our candidates. seeing none, we will open up for public comment. if you have comments on applicants, please line up. please make clear if you are in support or opposition of an applicant. helps us when we draft our minutes. >> i am in support of allen grossman. i am a resident of district 6. the reasons i support him are as follows -- when supervisor kim proposed three questions to each of the candidates, he answered them in a fashion that i think promotes good governance. he is for video recordings of the ethics commission's. he is for all offic

in terms of the conditional use application, the city process the application. unfortunately, the landlords attorney, in my opinion, changed her opinion and wrote a letter to the planning department which in essence blocked ike from continuing with this application. further, the landlord blocked ike from making corrective actions on building code and health department violations. ike was intending to make corrections and repairs on those measures, but the landlord's attorney prevented him from making any corrective action in the building. as a result of having to move, he moved to a temporary location last september. he has been there until now. he now has a new location. because of the fact he has had to have that temporary location, that cost him quite a bit of money. he is about to move to his permanent location. as a result, the disruption cost is approximately $100,000. moreover, because of this double move and not having the full scope of time in a given week to operate -- he cannot operate on sundays, for example. he has lost over a hundred thousand dolla

applicants. is that ok with my colleagues? ok. supervisor elsbernd: if you really think it's necessary, sure. supervisor kim: thank you. two minutes. >> i'm john err lack and i'm on the pedestrian safety advisory committee from district two. i've served on many committees and on nonprofit boards and i want you to know this is the most competent group of people i've ever had the pleasure to serve with. jay is included in that, he's made valuable considerations, worked hard, the other members, it's incredible how this committee has changed with the contributions these members that appeared before you have. and so i strongly urge you to continue their great work by approving all of them. thank you. supervisor kim: thank you so much for being here. >> again, my name is pi ra. i want to speak on behalf of mr. rothman. during the last year he did something that nobody as chair has been able to do. bring together the pisac committee to come up with a report and he actually was the task master in providi

>> i did. >> that you didn't have an application? >> i never received an application. >> ok. just in the normal course of stuff if someone wanted to be a patrol and it would take you a couple of weeks to go through it and hand it up to backgrounds? >> it is fair to say that it would take a few weeks. >> i don't want to go on at length but if you could communicate with the commission the rough backlog and how long that takes so the public knows after tonight's meeting. that would be fine for me. that is all i have at this point. >> i wanted a clarification talking about the gun holster, how many patrol specialists carry guns and are all required to go to the range? and how do they have the guns. >> they are supposed to qualify twice per year in april and october. >> are they post certified? do they have a license to carry the guns? >> the assistants have guard cards but the beat owners are exempt from possessing a guard card. >> ok. thank you. >> if i may say in october i did attend their qualification. and at the time the range master expressed concerns in regards to the rete

applicants. supervisor kim: if you could take your conversations outside, thank you so much for being here. we currently have nine applicants. i am going to call for the applicants in the order that they are listed on the agenda. >> i would like to say the other side of the farm was more pedestrian. i dunno what form your talking about. since it is a pedestrian 10, when of the originals that were appointed to the advisory committee back in april of 2003, it was under the bicycle seat because it was on the board for the bike program. there have been other seats. there were other staff people there for years. since 2005, also, i was the president of the neighborhood committee for a least a couple of years. i moved from my favorite part of the neighborhood. i am in the soma area. that is one of the reasons why i still want to stay on the pedestrian safety advisory committee. thank you for bringing up about a week and a half ago, some of the issues regarding -- it is not safe. i come from a area that

kane from the commissioners or the applicants? >> can you find this -- i'm sorry it's a little bit confused. it's all the way behind those letters. president roja: i'm sure they're here. ah, here it is. >> you got it? >> i do have a question. seeing that there is some karaoke going on in this establishment, is this an 18 and over type thing or is it 21? >> 21. >> did the occupancy for the place -- how many people can you hold? >> 90 people maximum and the karaoke room is about 2 2 people. commissioner meko: and you have how many exits? >> pardon me? commissioner meko: you have how many exits? >> we have three exits. commissioner meko: and you're talking about having one security person? >> yes. commissioner meko: how is one security person going to cover three exits? >> the main exit and through the mezzanine area is the main exit. so we figure out the two exits. commissioner meko: so one entrance and exit and the other two would be treated as emergency exits? >> yes. commissioner meko: ok. fair enough. president roja: any other q

there is one seat and one applicant. supervisor kim: thank you so much for being here. >> i am recently appointed to the director of internal child analysts and health. and the designee for this position by director of the health department barbara garcia. and is wanted to tell you a little bit about myself. i have come here recently from working in san mateo county. i really look forward to being able to serve on this because the mission of the san francisco department of public health matches perfectly with the first five which is to promote and protect the safe and healthy development of young children in san francisco. i have experience as a nurse and a doctorate in public health specializing in public health. i have worked as a public member to the first five operations and planning committee. i oversaw several grants. i hope that you will see to appoint me. i am happy to answer any questions. supervisor kim: you answered my question already. any other questions? at this time, we will open up for public comment. >>

we recommend the application for approval. we have been discussing this with the applicant. one thing the applicant wanted was to go until 2:00 a.m. seven days a week. that was not something we could justify. i was pleased we were able to come back with the recommendation of approval. we are cutting back the hours with the intention of watching them operate for the next year or so. if things are working as planned, we can revisit the hours in one year to see if there is movement to extend it. because of the oversaturation of licenses, i think would be difficult to allow another bar in the area until 2:00 a.m. and would not provide a public convenience or necessity. we are recommending with the following conditions. the sale will be allowed only from 11:00 a.m. until 10:00 p.m. no noise that will disturb the peace and quiet of the neighborhood. it will not be audible outside the area controlled by the licensee. they will maintain the area free of litter. no loitering. graffiti show be removed within 72 hours of application if the graffiti occurs on a friday or weekend or holi

there are no other applicants. if there were other applicants, maybe, but her history would be good, so i suggest we move both names forward with recommendations. supervisor kim: ok. so without objection, we will move forward. both mr. boyd for seat one and ms. wong for seat 13 with recommendation to the full board without objection. madam clerk, can you please call item number five. >> ordinance amending coordination in the code enforcement efforts of city departments and to establish code enforcement activities. supervisor kim: thank you. we have heard from the sponsor of this legislation that it's his intent to file this ordinance. before that, we do need to hear public comment on the motion to file. any public comment at this time on this item? seeing none, public comments is now closed. may we have a motion to file this item? thank you. can we do this without objection? so we will move this item forward -- i'm sorry. we will file this ordinance. madam clerk, do you have any further announcements? >> no, madam

how many applications are pending. that sort of thing. >> i was trained and it is my interpretation and knowledge that there is a checklist established by the police commission. those pieces of paper and forms have to be submitted with the application. so it is the beat owner, assistant patrol special has to be diligent in their submission of paperwork. i have seen very few applications come through. but i assure you like any other paperwork in the police department we are diligent in contending with those pieces of correspondence. what happens if an application comes through if it does not have the points that are necessary, i will correspond or we will correspond in writing and submit the packet back asking them to resubmit everything when it gets done. at that time that information is prepared and then sent to the background investigations department. that is a division of the administration bureau. i can't speak about what they do. i know they are an entity that does the background for civilians and employees for p

we have one applicant for one seat, and this applicant was nominated by the director of the department of public health. without opposition. i believe linear residency labor again. again without opposition. please call item no. 6? >> appointing as one member. there is one seat and one applicant. >> tell us a little bit about your background and experience and why you like to serve. >> i have been with the family collaborative for the last eight months. i work with families and organize them so that they can be an advocate. i advocate for families in terms of the city and other community organizations. being an immigrant, i feel like i can be a strong advocate for families. and as i am sure you all can imagine, families have very distinct and specific needs. i believe the families deserve a voice. i feel like i will be a good candidate for that position. supervisor kim: any questions? i think many times, people don't realize who lived in the buildings. i think it is really important that we have that voice their from the task force. at this time, we'll open it up for public comment. no

by next week, they need to submit applications. after they receive an assignment offer, they need to go to the school. we have a lot of new materials. we have materials that explains the process as well as talk about the school so that they can find out all the different programs that are offered in the school. when they apply, they need to bring certain documents. this is what they need to bring if they are enrolling for the first time, births, address, application form. this is the date of that need to remember. all of the applications can be submitted to -- or you can submit it if you are a sibling, to the school that your sibling attends. this process is much simpler technically than what used to have which was the lottery which look at many different considerations when placed in the school. this process on it looks at where you live and where your choices are. we strive to give you the highest choice school. you can list as many as you like, we would like families to look at all of their options because there are so many grea

that -- this application is incomplete. i don't think that we can vote on it because it is incomplete. it's missing stuff like the security plan. so you know, if i was you, i would ask for a continuance so that you could get a completed application to us because not having inadequate security plans is grounds for denial. >> so could i ask you specifically what information it is that you're looking for -- vice chair joseph: no, you can't because i can't tell you how to do your security plan. >> you know what you could do is get together with ms. cain and show you security plans that have been submitted in other applications. what commissioner joseph is correctly stating is we need to know the nuts and boths. we need to know their positioning. how you're going to have communication and stuff like that. if it's being accomplished by a private contractor that's fine. question just need to know all the knew answers. vice chair joseph: right. it's in-- -- incomplete. i couldn't vote for it because it doesn't have all of the stuff

. -- a shelf drilling application. there is a potential pool of very talented personnel and we are hoping to tap into their yearning for public service to come back and helpless at least on an interim basis. we already have the nominations from a number of companies. we are going through the process now and maybe will bring some of those on board quickly. there will be under the supervision of our people. we will make the final decisions but it is to fill a gap in the the number of available people we have to make certain important analyses in the permitting process. >> in terms of public questions, we will take questions from the audience. wait for a microphone, identify yourself, and if you compose your question in the form of a question, that would be greatly appreciated. [laughter] we will start on this end. >> i am with the houston chronicle. you mentioned the reaction of industry to the postsspi-ll rules. one of those reactions was a lawsuit challenging the pace of permitting. because some of the permits at issue

it is the date of applications that the requirements be effective. so if you are to submit now, you have to meet the 2009 requirements. if you are to submit now on a permit with a sense of details in 2010, you do not meet the requirements, you meet 2009 on your permit application. so if somebody were to have submitted something last year, up even though the addendum was coming later, the state of your permit application, foresight permits, you know we have something called a process where you submit an umbrella permit saying here is the concept, the size, and the shape, and you go through the planning review and approval process. you do not want to do all the details and architectural drawings, because that could take the story off. and later you submit an addendum. the agenda are now permits. -- not permits. the only permit is the site permit, but first umbrella permit. so the trigger is the date of the application. >> then at what point do you submit the guidelines? would that be during the site permit? >> yes. you submit this checklist, and as i s

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>> the terms, there are three applicants. >> i believe of three applicants are here today. can we please have you, in the order you are listed in the agenda? thank you for your service on this council. >> although i have served since 2007, this is the first time i have appeared before the rules committee. in the past, it has conflicted with the class that i teach. i am pleased to be here today and meet with the rules committee of like to read my letter of application and keep it in direct. i will review what i believe are some of my qualifications. thank you for considering my continued service for an organization providing educational research related to the board culture. and i hope to continue in this capacity with your approval. please accept the attached list of qualifications. the only significant addition is an additional service to the council itself, i should add that the most significant aspect is that i am serving for the landmark committee. we have quite a bit of work in that committee currently. i also put more time and with city college. through the department

are the applicants here? come on up and introduce yourself. >> good evening, president, commissioners, staff. >> stephen. >> so this is pretty straightforward. commissioners, do you have any questions? do you have anything? >> i just want to address the permit officer's comments. things are taken care of. they have been taken care of or will be taken care of. president newlin: ok. vice chair joseph: the one that deals with minors, you are not letting them in anyway, are you? ok. commissioner meko: they take less than 25% of the space, and they are not the point of your business, just an added feature to improve your business. you are not opening a pool parlor or a pinball house where anything like that? ok. so it is really a minor consideration, so long as you do not have it lined up with this. president newlin: any public comment? >> hello, again. i am -- henry mandel. these gentlemen are also my neighbors, and i have also been to chaps many times, and i look forward to visiting again and using these machine

the applicant would inform us of any new technologies. they have to provide us with that information. they are the providers in that specific type of technology. they would know what is new and what is available. >> the box turns into a much more massive underground facility. how you judge whether that is feasible or not? is it just to the cost to build that out? presumably, you can find the space for that. i'm wondering how the question comes into play. >> all of these boxes are currently known as the furniture zone. >> at the very best, the edge of the box would get move toward the property line. the size of the box given the facility from at&t, is approximately 49 15 feet that would be eliminating the possible planting areas. there is a lot of other potential technical issues to look at. is this in front of a commercial business. ? do they have an accessibility entryway that would be impacted by the installation of this box? there are a lot of issues that we have to reveal on the case -- review on a case by case basis. >> you made a si