lincoln unclee my great, great was the head of a regiment of the volunteers and became a major at appomattox for cutting off lee's retreat. my great aunt was a strong influence and came out to my -- montana in a covered wagon and they met lincoln and one of the daughters of one of the great ands -- aunts decided she would marry this fellow. and one said, he is a democrat. and she said, yes. said,e other and -- aunt we would rather you marry a dog. but lincoln was very much in the picture. anyway, you have already met all of our distinguished panelists. so we are going to have a about the and -- various topics that have been covered here. and i think, is somebody saying something? which one, let's -- of you, i guess we will take questions from the audience. there is a question over there. yes, some of the lectures have talked about, in their lectures, looking back 150 years ago with 21st century glasses, and either making judgments or whatever. something has always interested me in reading from that time period, what the united states was like at that time, in the sense that it was incredibly