officials have suggested that boko haram and al qaeda and the islamic or aqim were likely sharing funds, training and explosive materials. so could you provide some clarity, and i'm going to ask both of you this question and ask you to be brief, but provide clarity to the extent of cooperation and support that aqim has provided to this organization. >> congressman -- >> financial, material support, all that, please. >> in this setting, there are limits on the ability to go into detail, but we can absolutely confirm the categories that you're talking about in terms of the cooperation between boko haram and aqim in particular, where the ties seem to be the strongest. that it does include training, facilitation, financing, weapons. that's the type of influence and material that is being traded back and forth between aqim and boko haram. boko haram also has sought linkages with some of the other aq affiliates, as was discussed earlier. the intensity of those linkages is less clear, but there is an all-member briefing tomorrow, a classified briefing tomorrow where we could get into some of t

intelligence, sharing with the community and the state department, they believe that it was al qaeda, aqim responsible for the attack. that was the best information. those were the facts as we have them. my time is now expired. i now recognize the ranking member. >> general, first of all, i want to thank you for your testimony. as i sit here and in listening to many witnesses, as a lawyer, i can tell that this is something that is very important to you, and i thank you for coming forward. you talk about the military and how we had to protect them and our state department people, and certainly, i agree with in the interest of time, and one of the things that i have done as a member of this committee is also tried to protect the integrity of the people who come before us. we have had general hamm, and they came to different opinions. and that's ok. but they are probably watching this right now, and i want to make sure that just as you, i'm sure, feel very strongly about your opinion -- i want to make sure that you are saying what i think you are saying so that they are very clear because the

. >> aqim, were they involved? >> aas is who we looked at. >> how quickly did you come to the conclusion that you believed there were al qaeda affiliates or al qaeda themselves involved engaged in the attack? >> very soon in the early hours of the activity. >> was it a video? >> no, sir. >> did it spark a protest? >> no, sir. >> i want to get the facts at a time. the cia station chief is quoted as saying, "not not an escalation a protest." would you agree or disagree with the cia station chief's analysis? >> absolutely, it was an attack. >> jones at the state department, and an e-mail that went to others, hillary clinton's chief of staff says she told the libyan ambassador september 12, 12:46 p.m., i told him the group that conducted the attack is affiliated with islamic extremists. would you agree or disagree with that statement? >> yes i would agree. the timing of it, i do not know. the content, yes. >> the scandal that is here, that some choose to ignore, a phony scandal, is the fact that the cia station chief,

hostages who were in a single location and the algerian government and military took action as the aqim and they'll mock terror began to separating discourse the hostages. they engaged in an assault that left 40 of the hostages dead hand that was in a desert environment and the hostages were concentrated together. so it would be hard to overestimate the complexity first of locating the hostages and then began considering how that might he resolved successfully. if we had an fbi witness here today he or she i imagine would indicate that the vast majority of hostage recovery situations were resolved through dialogue and negotiations and not for rescues. >> thank you. anything to add dr. sewall? >> i think any military experts and hostage recovery would also tell you that the dialogue is often very helpful even in the event that dialogue fails and so i think we have to be respectful of the ways in which the nigerians choose to achieve the safe return of the girls. >> thank you and think you mr. chairman. >> we go now to mr. chris smith from new jersey. >> thank you mr. chairman and thank y

in libya and clearly, they put this out saying -- it says multiple times, i have read it myself -- aqim, and qaeda, this was sent to the state department as the best intelligence that you have -- to the state department -- as to what happened with the attack and what the attack to file might look like if we wanted to counter. knowledge of this document? are you familiar with this document? as i described it, would that be an accurate representation? >> i have not seen the document itself, but i will certainly comment on the information you just characterize, and, yes, that was the picture we were working with. those were the facts we were working with. >> my fellow colleagues here -- again, the facts as we know -- military intelligence, sharing with the community and the state department, they believe that it was al qaeda, aqim responsible for the attack. that was the best information. those were the facts as we have them. my time is now expired. i now recognize the ranking member. >> general, first of all, i want to thank you for your testimony. as i sit here and in listening , as a la

specifically has new analysis on boko haram saying that the sharing of these best practices between aqimnd al-shabaab with boko haram may actually predate 2011, jon. jon: are there other examples of al qaeda affiliates like that working together? >> reporter: you hear increasingly from officials who study this area is this emphasis on the killing of usama bin laden may ultimately be displaced. misplaced. >> went into afghanistan out of necessity after our nation was attacked by al qaeda on september 11th, 2001. we went to war against al qaeda and its extremist allies with the strong support of the american people and their representatives in congress. >> reporter: but these officials say that that kind of statement which puts the emphasis on al qaeda in pakistan, afghanistan, is misplaced just by recent example the attack in benghazi, libya, where you saw different operatives from yemen in and al qaeda in north africa and people with support structure with links back to usama bin laden really pull off a very strategically effective attack on u.s. interests. so it doesn't have to necessar

organization specifically outlining these connections to al qaeda's affiliate in north africa, known as aqimt statement by general psaki in the briefing room stunned yesterday, i can see why. catherine herridge in washington. thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. julie: program for tracking down the world's most notorious terrorist is coming to an end. the cia will stop using vaccination program as a cover for intelligence operations. the agency used this kind of program by the way to try and spy on usama bin laden's compound in pakistan prior to the raid that killed the terror leader in 2011. chief washington correspondent james rosen is live with the rest of the story. hi, james. >> reporter: good morning. the way this news was disclosed still leaves a number of questions unanswered the disclose share took the form of a letter written by lisa monaco, and sent to a dozen deans of leading health schools, all whom active in combating polio in handful of countries where that disease remains endemic. the five-sentence letter was dated last week, may 16 but its opening line states it was reply

it's in somalia and kenya with el shabab, with the counterlra effort and also with boko haram and aqim it has to be a multiregional effort and we're certainly working with our partners across africa to address this issue. >> ifill: do you feel that you're making progress. >> i think we're making slow progress but there's still a lot of work to be done. >> ifill: assistant secretary of state for african affairs, thank you so much for helping us out. >> and thank you very much for having me. >> woodruff: the woman who will likely be the new face of the affordable care act testified today on capitol hill. sylvia mathews burwell, the president's budget director, is mr. obama's nominee to replace kathleen sebelius as secretary of health and human services. rarely is anything on health care a bipartisan affair anymore in congress, but burwell was well received by members on both sides of the aisle. >> ms. burwell, you have a reputation for competence. and i would respectfully suggest you're going to need it. >> reporter: that warning notwithstanding, republicans, like lamar alexander, mostly

. >> aqim -- were they involved?ho he most looked at all of the groups. >> how quickly did you become to the decision al qaeda was involved in this attack? >> very, very soon. when we were still in the early hours of this activity. >> was it a video? >> no, sir. >> was it a video that sparked a protest? >> no, sir. >> what i want to get out, mr. chairman, are the facts at the time. that is what the white house keeps talking about. the cia station chief is quoted as saying not an escalating of protest. do you agree? >> absolutely. it was an attack. >> beth jones at the state department says that she told the libyan ambassador, this is september 12th, i told him that the group that conducted the attack is a affiliated with islamic extremist. end quote. would you agree or disagree? >> i would agree. the timing i don't know. but the content, yes. >> the scandal that is here that some chose to ignore is a phony scandal is that fact the cia station chief and the person sitting in front of us, the head of intelligence, they

in westerne aqim haram that boko kidnapped the girls and al-shabaab in somalia.ave al qaeda affiliates that are multiplying. people use the analogy of a cancer that metastasizes and spreads to other parts. that is what has happened here. i'm afraid that the president really wants to push this narrative that terrorists are decimated and that has been a success for him, part of what was going on with the benghazi talking points. the problem is, that's not what's happening in the world. as the new fbi director, there is still a very serious threat and my fear is we leave and thenan too early that core al qaeda group that is still in that region also springs back to life to resume their plot against mining against us. host: what do you think will be the end result of the select committee on benghazi? what would you like to see happen? guest: i want to get the truth. i think we have gotten pretty much the full story as far as what the military did and why they didn't. it. the intelligence committee did a good role in understanding the cia but what we have not gotten t