>> jordan is part of the arab spring also. but the arab spring means something different to every country. different countries are going through different paces. you know, i keep saying that whatever the middle east is going through is going to be something that will take five, ten, 15 years and each country is going to have its own unique experiment of this. the republics have gone through a much tougher version of this than the monarchies, funny enough. but i hope this is something we all look back five, ten, 15 years from now and say that arab spring is a good thing. and i believe it is. so we all have to change. but the pace and meaning will be different for each count voy the problem sometimes in the united states is they say "how do we deal with the arab spring? there's no way to quantify that because for each country it means something different. >> jon: i think we like to have the idea-- arrogantly so-- that we are in control of this process. the argument we have is "how could you let the brotherhood come to power in e

are they going to be changed by the arab spring? will they lose their power as other authoritarian regimes have lost their power? >> ( translated ): the people that revolted against their leaders, against dictatorship were looking for freedom. the egyptians declared-- one of the children of egypt declared will will not intervene in the matters of other countries. we do not expert the revolution and will not intervene in other countries affairs. we support the people who want to achieve and reach their freedom as we are doing right now with the people of syria. however we do not intervene at all within the internal affairs of anyone and we do not want anyone to intervene. we want to keep our freedoms and we want the others to safeguard their own freedoms. >> rose: but would the natural expression of the arab spring by definition bring reform and change in bahrain? in saudi arabia? there n jordan? -- in jordan? >> ( translated ): i'd like to stress upon this fact once again this is something that is a matter of those people and those

>> jordan is part of the arab spring also.ut the arab spring means something different to every country. different countries are going through different paces. you know, i keep saying that whatever the middle east is going through is going to be something that will take five, ten, 15 years and each country is going to have its own unique experiment of this. the republics have gone through a much tougher version of this than the monarchies, funny enough. but i hope this is something we all look back five, ten, 15 years from now and say that arab spring is a good thing. and i believe it is. so we all have to change. but the pace and meaning will be different for each count voy the problem sometimes in the united states is they say "how do we deal with the arab spring? there's no way to quantify that because for each country it means something different. >> jon: i think we like to have the idea-- arrogantly so-- that we are in control of this process. the argument we have is "how could you let the brotherhood come to power in egy

the arab spring once promised a change relationship between the arab world and the west. the events of the past week have unveiled the complexity of what it has actually brought. >> is this big banks that they get? the u.s. consulates in -- is this the thanks that they get? the u.s. consulate in been gauzy rex. -- in benghazi wrecked. the wave of anti-americanism rolled on through the region. in yemen. in iraq, they burned the stars and stripes, chanting "no to america, no to israel." meanwhile in egypt, police fired tear gas at demonstrators in a third day of unrest. democracy in north africa, halted by the west, facing to radical anti-western groups that were once suppressed by the ubiquitous security forces. soon after last year's uprising in libya, we went to a newly liberated town, famous or notorious for sending an unusually high number of young muslims and to fight american forces in iraq. some former soldiers return to their own country last year, joining revolutionary militias, and keeping their weapons even after gaddafi was overthrown. s he says he knows the gr

has the arab spring been good for the united states?ll, yes, it has -- >> i have to stop you there. here is hillary clinton. >> yesterday our post in libya was attacked. heavily armed militants attacked the compound and set fire to the buildings. american and libyan security personnel battled the attackers together. four americans were killed. they included sean smith, a foreign service information management officer, and our ambassador to libya, chris stevens. we are still making next of kin notifications for the other two individuals. this is an attack that should shock the conscience of people of all faiths around the world. we condemn in the strongest terms this senseless act of violence and we send our prayers to the families, friends and colleagues of those we've lost. all over the world every day americans risk our lives in the service of our countries and values. because they believe that the united states must be a force for peace and progress in the world. that these aspirations are worth striving and sacrificing for. alongsid

what you know i do live from moscow coming out this hour with the arab spring forcing people to flee their homes and had to europe many have found in their hour of need they have been turned down at the front door . and we explore how how work in the hands of a happy person may be exploited by governments pursuing their own interests. the first day of the u.n. general assembly in new york was quite predictably marked by a boiling over of tension between iran and israel iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad used his speech at the gathering to denounce israel's alleged nuclear stockpiles and its occupation of palestine the iranian president's address to users ministers from over one hundred countries prompted israel's ambassador to walk out of it in a job also implicitly accuse the u.s. of shielding israel paving the way for a strike on tehran this comes just days after washington decided to remove an iranian militant group the men off its terror blacklist. the policy director of the national iranian american council believes the sudden change of heart over an organization striving to

we must strive to insure that the arab spring does not become an arab winter. with that i am happy to take any questions you may have. steve? >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> the embassy in cairo put out a statement after their grounds had been preached and protesters were inside the grounds and they reiterated that statement after the breach. i think it's -- i think it's a terrible course for america to stand in apology for our values, instead when our grounds are being attacked and breached that the first response of the united states must be outrage at the breach of the sovereignty of our nation, and an apology for america's values is never the right course. >> reporter: do you think in coming so soon after the events unfolded overnight was appropriate to be weighing in as the crisis is unfolding in real time? >> the white house also issued a statement saying it tried to distance itself from the comments and said they were not reflecting of their views. i had the same exact reaction. these views were inappropriate and they were the wrong course to take when ou

him again triggered by wealth inequality inspired by the arab spring occupy wall street a movement of the people bringing up real dialogue over the need to improve the way america runs. spilled onto the streets when the same bankers that the economy were bailed out by our taxpayer money that provoked occupy wall street what we hope to do with the brain that outrage outrage about very basic issues that most americans intuitively understand. the big apple became the birthplace of the occupy movement just one week into the protests all hell broke loose. when they pepper sprayed those those women and made all those arrests it was really intense police brutality was brought into the spotlight protesters often confronted by tear gas and pepper sprayed even war veterans injured. faces bloodied demonstrators beaten with the tons and dragged journalists abused and arrested for . camps in major cities eventually radek added by officials one after another remembers a comedy park in new york's financial district it was here that the first occupied . cam was set up hundreds of people made this the

policies in arab spring countries. these demonstrations really are not really directed at the film itself the are a result of that make you really asian over the past few months in years there has been an organized campaign to insult and humiliate islam particularly in the united states i see most of the demonstrations receding right now although most of them were spontaneous with the probably one exception of the attack and the murder of the u.s. and nasser in libya that was dead appeared to be the work of militant groups on the ground ironically by seeing most of the weapons that those militant groups used in the firefight that preceded the capture he was invested her in his murder i think most of those weaponry probably came from nato and the united states i mean that's the biggest irony that the men and stephens who actually advocated that the united states and nato to arm these militants in libya eventually fell prey to the same militant groups on the ground so with the exception of the odd one unfortunate inciden

chaos in the arab spring. chaos for allies in israel. there are certainly areas that are problematic. we are having some tough days. we'll have tough days ahead. what we've seen in the last three days is a product of policies that have been building over the last three years. if we are successful in building some modicum democracy, it will be an enormous success. you think the president's policy in the middle east has been a success. looks like a disaster to most americans. there has been significance violence in recent weeks. certainly today's tragic death of over 30 people but it also correlates with progress on the political track. disaster. progress. chaos. disaster. progress. ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: wow. one man's chaos is another man's progress. here's the thing that i really find the most troubling. how can one man's opinion shift so drastically and yet his hairline stays exactly the same? i can't tell if these guys are cynical, clueless or in denial. we will be right ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: welcome back. my guest

and what we're seeing right now is that we saw the arab spring and now we're starting to see what some you know you couldn't you could almost call the arab fall maybe it's taking it a little bit too far but there are over a dozen countries right now that are having protests whether it's a few hundred people to a few thousand people it's costing people their lives so is this region just so unstable that nothing at this point is certain i think it's fair to say that yes it is unstable enough to say that nothing is very certain except for this that you have a set of of arab and islamic countries in the region which are. overwhelmingly anti american which do not trust the united states and they do this they have this attitude in large part because they view the united states as at war with islam and this is a reflection of course of the history of the last ten years in particular when the united states has gone to war in terms of sending ground forces as well as bombing in iraq afghanistan and now of course the drone war in pakistan that has solidified this view of the united states anti i

second, what we are witnessing is indeed the consequence of the arab spring. ab societies were locked down for 50 years. the lid has come off them, and what we' seeing inside has some good elements, moderates, liberals, pragmatists, and some very nasty elements, extremists, islamic fundamentalists, jihadees. let us be honest. there is a cancer of extremism in the arab world, one that was diagnosed extensively after 9/11 by many including me. that cancer has not been cured. most of the forces that produced it still remain. we should be honest that it exists, we should be honest that moderates in the region tend to be weak, often cowardly, but we should try to help them. if the united states pulls out, the crazies only get stronger. the clash of civilizations exists, and it is within islam between those who want to burn american embassies and those who want to partner with us in building modern societies. we have a stake in who wins that struggle. let's get started. >>> joining me now, the man who was national security adviser in 1979 when the u.s. embassy was ta

of course you want to see this arab spring emerge into a democratic reality for this region. a moderate one. but i don't think it is an arab winter. and nor do most people who look at what's going on there. they point to the moderates who have won in libya, for instance. and even though it's a muslim brotherhood candidate, they talk about upholding treaties, about democracy, about equality for all, about keeping good relations with not just israe and the peace treaty but also with the united states. in tunisia as well it's about moderation. but the fear of course is those small groups of sol fists. the real extremists. the saudi stall extremists not alt all happy with the democratic moderate way these countries are going. and it's in their interest to seize on any issue they can to attack not just the u.s. but also their own governments to try to put themselves in power. so that's what people have to keep an eye on. trying to empower these governments now and trying to help them, you know, really get to a democracy and build on these blocks while trying to sideline and minimi

that is a country that we had high hopes even after the arab spring.mer ally, dictatorship of hosni mubarak left, that they would be stable and continue to be our friend. if the new government isn't willing to control the anti-miles per hour elmets, that really raises a lot of questions. these are the kind of things that people talked about at the beginningf the arab spring transformation, what was going to happen when the islamist group came to power. would they be anti-american? what would happen? it took a wile for something like this to start bubbling up. this raises a lot of questions. you know, is the embassy safe? what about the future? >> bret: unless i missed it, did the president talk about egypt? >> no. >> bret: i didn't hear text -- >> only about benghazi. >> only about libya. >> i have a slight difference from charles on the video. i think the video was actually a trigger more than irrelevancy. this was an information operation. it was a planned event in cairo on the streets. and the real question i think one of the key questions going for

and more -- we need to incent a time machine and not allow this wonderful flowering ofs in in the arab spring -- yeah, that's worked out great. >> sean: all the apologizing to the arab world. there is an unwillingness to acknowledge the truth, which radical islamists exist and they have no problem raiding our embassy. here's the irony of all of this, the liberal media and we will show this later. what is their answer? to attack governor romney for doing what our president should have done and say this is unacceptable. we are not going to allow it. we have a tape where they coordinated their questions together so they you ask, you felr follow-up, you ask, you follow-up. >> no. it's stunning. you know that romney's statement was devastating to president obama because the media is screaming bloody murder. if he hadn't struck gold with that, they wouldn't all be doing this. that's their response to everything. oh, can you believe he said that? yeah, i can-- >>> i was actually thankful that we had a leader that came out and defended the united states of america and said that there will be conseque

you saw during the arab spring gas prices rose almost 30%.ut, the other point is the supply and demand and as steve points out it's not disrupted right now in the emirates and saudi arabia, but here is the problem. you remember back to the beginning of the financial crisis, i know i for one thought oh, it will just been limited to just a few banks and, sure, it steam rolled until it hit the financial sector. that's the concern here and i think what todd is alluding to. sure, if it's just contained to, you know the yemens of the world, yes, that won't be an i am tactful-- impact on the supply and demand. if it spreads, this is the viral thing that could spread, then we will have problems. >> brenda: jonas, that's the question, what if this spreads? >> well, most of the world's gettable reserves are in and around people that do not take much reason to get into a huge anti-american craze. it always could happen and always been like that and probably getting worse, but the bottom line is that these countries have no real economies, but selling oi

underlines how big it still the internet is now and nowhere was that more clear than during the arab spring uprisings so-called hackers chapters are now spreading across the region and are seen as a way to promote in the pan in journalism but as artie's policy reports the groups could and are being used by governments for their own purposes. each day across the world millions of fingers fly across keyboards with the power to break through some of the toughest security fire walls this is the most powerful weapon streams of darter flashing across the computer screens of the world in the blink of an eye information that can promote provoke and agitate people. quite a. lot or not i mean. physically attacking the clinic and that's why you will find a lot of hearkens grown up in this politicians at the mission and this time the arab spring gave birth to a new generation of hackers they polish the skills in bypassing government controls to speak out it's very popular in countries where. you know websites are banned and there are restraints on websites mostly in gulf countries they start by using p

you know, at the time of those uprising, president obama said what was remarkable about the arab spring was that it wasn't about us, it was about them. it was about throwing avenue old dictators. well, whenever you traveled through the region there wasals -- always -- was always still a little bit of an undercurrent of about us, whether we were supporting democracy or imposing our values. this week it really became about us because these awful videos that you've seen were really what happens w wn american free speech meets american religious tolerance or intolerance. gwen: let's explain that. it's a trailer for a film we have heard about and relatively few people have seen which was crude and offensive and circulated widely apparently around the region. but was that really the animating thing? or was there resentment that had always been there, doyle? >> well, it's both. but in fact the e lm was getting around and was being actively prop 0 gated by two different kinds of people in egypt. it's a very strange story. one was a number of coptic christians, who have been 0 pressed -- oppress

optimism surrounding the arab spring has been replaced by worries about the arab fall as a wave of anti western protests and violence sweep across the muslim world. but for one former british spy the recent events brings to mind unheeded lessons from the past in his thirty years of british government service alastair crook has operated in trouble spots all across the globe from helping them with fighters in afghanistan against the soviets to working with rebel political groups in northern ireland cambodia and colombia as a former special envoy to the middle east he has brokered a number of sea.

a lonely and welcoming cross-talk i'm peter lavelle from the arab spring to the arab blowback what accounts for the rise of violence across the arab middle east was the killing of the american ambassador in benghazi really a reaction to an alleged short film defaming islam or are we witnessing a carefully planned and coordinated campaign against western meddling in the arab world. and. to cross-talk the recent rise of violence in the in the arab middle east i'm joined by ram down the in london she is a journalist an academic who specializes in the arab middle east and north africa in washington we have mohamed ghanem he is director of government relations for the syrian american council and intricacy we crossed a v.j. prashad he is the author of arab spring libyan winter folks cross talk rules and if i mean you can jump in anytime you want in the below what is going on here we have the anniversary of nine eleven we have the killing of the american ambassador in libya i mean and then we have this weird film how do you connect the dots here. well you know the narrative is not very straightfor