arabs i. i. i. respect on the palestinian flag. i i i think have to understand that. this disownment of his or her second does exist there fascist extreme right and it's growing and strengthening but. there really is a democracy for jews in israel it's being limited more and more with time but for. as we speak now there really is democracy for jews in israel but it's not really a democracy it's and of course. if you're jewish you have certain democratic rights and if you're not sure your deeds these rights are much less and and if your. a resident of the. territory. you're under a completely different legal system. i'm not a trial. right wing extremists and nationalists from the organization. are demonstrating against jonathan polak and other activists during a demonstration against the wall. to encourage soldiers to shoot protesters. come on guys use live ammunition give them one of the heads. go to hell get out of here. to protest against the violence of. the anarchists are both israeli and international activists they call themselves peace a peace activist they hav

i respect... >> rose: and the arab league. >> i respect... >> rose: those are the two things they said. >> i respect the sentiment beyond that initiative. i'm not sure the arld world is that stable or unified these days. >> rose: ow so how has the arab spring changed your attitude about where israel is today and the difficulty of being israel in that neighborhood? >> i think we live in a very... in a convulsed area from the north africa right through pakistan and i think the ground is shifting because there's basically the challenge of modernity to societies that haven't modernized and there's deep frustration of hundreds of millions of people who see through 21st century technology the 20s... you know, the 20th century passed them by and they all demand their dignity. they want an end to corruption and they want to be enfranchised. >> rose: universal values is the word they now use. >> they would like it. the problem is they're going to be hard-pressedo get it. so you might very well have not the democrats win out but the militant islamists who will come and at least say "well, at least we're not corrupt." sure they get cor

i get that, -- i hear the iran emboldened piece, and what i have heard is in the arab spring, they have rejected outcry that, they have rejected iran. and then the president's decision with respect to libya, it was a completely different way to support the overall effort there. in these hearings and historically, we have beat nato to death. we have not heard a word today about nato support in afghanistan. i have met with all my counterparts last week. it is extraordinary where they've is versus where they were two years or three years ago. i was delighted to see europe take the lead there. i do not get to decide what we did. however we got to that decision. i take the tactical counsel well, but there are a strategic implications for all of these things, significant differences. i would want to move carefully look at the lessons and integrate that into longer-term she take view, how do we get ahead of this? and right now it is one at that time. i would like to figure out -- for me there are fortwo is essential threats right now. the nuclear threat in russia right now, which i think we have controlled right now, and the other is cyber. you posed very difficult questions that out of all this, if we can step back from day-to- day, we owe ourselves some answers about how to move ahead. it is not want to get any easier. i think there will be situations where the use of military force will cont