>> i am part arapaho as you know. >> i know. we will get into your pronunciation of things. >> we are going to get to it later. >> how many times will we say this word before i get called down to the office. >> we are getting to it later. why is it illegal to kill bald eagles? they are not endangered anymore. >> i know why. because of the bald and golden eagle protection act. >> of course they don't have you on screen as she gives the most important fact of the evening. >> it was actually me who said that. >> your voice was high. >> i get high when i talk about something like that. >> it seems to me if it is off the endangered species list it should be fare game as they say. >> what? >> bill little you said americans will put up with anything in the name of religious freedom. not really. to take one example, the amish are anti-war. but they do have to pay taxes, a lot of which goes to the military. >> yes, but they go toward scones and napkins. those don't go to combat items. the quaker tax dollars are set aside to go -- >> if y

religious ceremony and the arapaho indians in wyoming got permission from the u.s.and wildlife service to kill two bald eagles for those ceremonies. now, that has raised a ruckus by a lot of people. let's keep this in mind, the bald eagle was on the endangered species list. it was moved to the threatened list and now off. done a magnificent job getting them up -- i got to tell you, i remember a guy who got picked up for -- by a game warden for eaten an egret and he got a $150 ticket and he said, by the way, what does an egret taste like? he said, somewhere between a bald eagle and a spotted owl. environmentalists, don't jump on me. it's a religious service. it is important to them. what do you think? >> well, one fact, easter is coming up and at the gutfelt household, we make the turkduck eagle, where you take a turkey and put it in a duck and then in an eagle. it's delicious. so i don't have a problem. >> kimberly, can i ask you? >> it was weird. >> it was greg, so it was weird. what do you think? >> look, when i heard this, of course, i have tremendous respect for

the arapaho tribe says it veal eig violates its rights to religious freedom.ald eagles, for the record, are no longer a threatened species, but they are protected. >> this morning a border patrol agent is facing serious injuries after a suspect set himself and his car on fire. it was driving east on the wrong way. when border patrol agents approached the car, the driver stayed inside and lit himself on fire. the fire causeda know explosion which killed the suspect and injured one of the agents. that agent is expected to be okay. >>> and an iraq war veteran charged in a southern california killing spree says he joined the marine corps because he, quote, needed to kill. that is disturbing. the orange county register be on take a script of a secret hearing of the orange county grand jury evaluating the case in, he was just disappointed when he did not see combat during a six-month tour during his duty in iraq. according to the transcript ocampo told the detective he planned to continue killing people and hoped to build a kill list of 16 victims. ocampo now charge

arapaho county search the city named aurora as part of arapaho county, a large black population. look around us human with the exception of you i don't see any black people. i don't have any black people -- >> i spotted a couple of adair. we're good at doing that. [applause] >> i would say the population is 12%, that we are little sure here today. gentleman named derek wolpert started that rocky might like tea party. the people i talked to them to week and i hear a lot of who say we don't think i'll take the white house this year. they seem kind of resigned with the possibility. i am the other hand don't believe we can take the chance. so i would like to know, how do we accelerate the process of getting out the message? we have 10 months. we don't have 10 years for something powerful like your movie or a speaker that yourself to permeate our society. what do we do to step it up? >> i assume you're speaking of getting an influence on the black vote in our country? >> yes, sir. >> as i alluded to in his speech, conservatives must be who we are. we must not run away from who we are.

now, the northern arapaho tribe in wyoming filed a lawsuit claiming that refusing the permit violatesom. joining me now the grio's christopher witherspoon. in the past, there was some kind of arrangement where the tribe would receive bald eagles that had already died. it sounds like this is a strange story. >> the tribe uses these parts as part of a religious ceremony called a sundance ceremony. it provides unity and togetherness for the tribe. but basically in the past they've gone to the u.s. repository and gotten old carcasses, decayed body parts of bald eagle parts. now they are able to kill two bald eagles. >> why now? what's changed? >> there isn't an exact reason of a change. they just decided to be more lenient. the official statement is the service must comply with other laws and regulation. they issued a modest total of permits for the one-time take of bald eagles to tribes ornatetive american individuals for use as part of religious ceremonies. so this is basically just abiding by other laws they have to abide by to support religious rights. >> what about the status of the

fish and wildlife service have granted a permit to the northern arapahoes to kill two bald eagles in's old religious ceremony. a ceremony that was previously outlawed. bald eagles have made such an amazing comeback over the past 25 years. it's really remarkable. >> they're off the endangered list, too. all at the same time, it's hard to see that, but understandable, as well. every other animal to be treated the same but they have the popularity. thank you for that. >>> 20 minutes past 6:00 and some serious backlash for goldman sachs after one of their own quit and blasted the bank in a no hold's bard in the "new york times" no less. >>> did you see this? take a look, take a look. geese gone wild. that's one. officer workers are fearing a dive bombing as they exit that building. we'll tell you why this is happening. you're watching "early start." i. but when she got asthma, all i could do was worry ! specialists, lots of doctors, lots of advice... and my hands were full. i couldn't sort through it all. with unitedhealthcare, it's different. we have access to great specialists, and our

. >> ok, so the north arapahoe tribe had filed suit with the u.s.fe because they refused to allow them to kill some eagles because they used the feathers in religious ceremonies. now, apparently, they've said it's going to be ok. we're going to allow you to kill two eagles. how do you feel about that? >> well, i think it's alarming and disturbing and i just hope we're not opening up a pandora's box that will open the door for others to do the same. you know, we've spent well over 40 years conservation groups and thousands of conservationists across the country have spent 40 years bringing the eagle back from the brink of extinction to have our national symbol in the future. this doesn't sit right with me. >> the argument by the indian tribe is they use and have for a very long time used eagle feathers and eagle parts in their services and they -- and they need them. but as i understand, apparently the wildlife service does provide eagle feathers and claws and things like that, right? >> that's right. there are so many other options to obtaining eagl