in archery.e of the black families is one of the most well known black bishops in the entire south. and he was a friend of the carter family, but because jimmy carter's father was a segregationist, he always would talk to bishop johnson on the front lawn. he wasn't allowed in through the front door of the carter home. that's how rigid the segregation of the jim crow south was. and even though the carters were the most well to do family in the area, they had no running water, no electricity, no mechanized farm equipment. they may as well been living in the 19th sents century. from the time he was a very, very small boy, jimmy carter wanted to be a farmer. and first he learned how to raise corn and sweet potatoes and then he moved on to cotton and peanuts and did everything involved in plowing the fields. this was his ambition when he was a boy. when you hear the bell ring, that farm bell, that is why jimmy carter's best book that was nominated for a pulitzer prize an hour before daylight it's call

this part of georgia, archery, quite a small town. this was a farm, when the president was born, didn't have running water or electricity. get a sense of the nature of the farm. nothing fancy. again, this was the son of a peanut farmer, jimmy carter growing up there, eventually took over the family business, before he decided to get into politics and ran for state senate, running to become governor of georgia, and then the white house that. growing up here in the mid—1920s, house that. growing up here in the mid-19205, 1924 house that. growing up here in the mid—1920s,192lijimmy carter was born here in georgia. and you can see, now retracing his steps, to where he was born, before this motorcade will take off for atlanta, georgia. you are watching bbc news special coverage of the state funeral ofjimmy carter, the 39th president of united states. you see they are the vehicle carrying the coffin of the president, motorcade waiting there behind. we have watched as this procession has begun. americus, georgia, with the latejimmy carter re

out will be pausing -- it will be pausing outside his boyhood home in archery.me district. in archery you will hear a bell toll 39 times. after that, it will make its way to atlanta. of course, he was the 39th president, thus the ringing. david spunt is in plains, georgia, following the movements. david, what's the latest? >> reporter: well, jimmy carter is plains, and plains is jimmy carter. several hundred people out here to watch this motorcade, the body of the former president, the 39th president of the united states, passed by just moments ago here on this main drag in plains. you can see right here plains is a small town. plains is a town that welcomed jimmy carter back after he was president of the united states during that one term in washington. i want to show you a live look right now at his home in archery, his boyhood home, i should say. archery, as you mentioned, it's maybe five minutes away from here, but this is his home. this is where he grew up, and this is where you see members of the national park service standing by ready to to honor him with

and you're right, it started right here in archery because of how he was raised.eah. >> the former president, the late president, i should say, wrote in his memoir an hour before daylight, about some of the people there on that farm who shaped his views and his worldview. and three of them, he said, were a black friends, his playmates, people he worked with farming, the cotton and and, of course, peanuts. there on his father's farm. and he said that there was one day that they were, as teenagers, going through a gate. and his black playmates, his friends were saying that you should go first. and that was his first moment of understanding segregation. the jim crow, deep south, and that, as he wrote, shaped his view of the equality that must be afforded to all georgians. and then as president of americans, that book is so fascinating. >> it's one of 34 books he wrote in his life, but it is that where he sort of laid out the history. and also in later years, he talked about when the white citizens council came and paid his father a visit and wanted him to join, and t

it will go to archery and then to plains. you're taking a live look at that motorcade going there right now. it left from phoebe sumter medical center in americus, georgia, a little bit earlier today, with pallbearers being his former secret service agents. it is now going to make a couple of different stops, one at his boyhood home. and then it will move over to plains, georgia, where people are now waiting at the train depot where he headquartered his presidential campaign. welcome to mornings on two. >> i'm claudine wong and good morning, one and all. i'm frank mallicoat bringing it back home. we've got some some good weather ahead. no rain for at least i think most of the week. let's check in with rosemary and say thank you very much. we're ready. a little sunshine goes a long way. >> yes, we will have some sunshine. we've got sunshine out there this morning in addition to the clouds. good morning to both of you. happy saturday everyone. how about a view over san francisco? and we know this. why? because we can see just t

[end video clip] host: this is a look at president carter's home in archery, georgia. service workers have gathered there. the family of president carter is expected to arrive in five or six minutes. there will be a brief pause in front of the family farm, and they will render salutes to the late president and ring the historic farm bill 39 times. after the pause, the late president will begin his final journey to atlanta, president carter's hearse will stop at the georgia state capital later today for a moment of silence and then be transported to the carter presidential center for an arrival ceremony in service. president carter will light in repose from sunday night until tuesday. he will then depart the presidential center on tuesday to washington, where he will lie in state at the capitol rotunda tuesday night through thursday morning. thursday morning, the national funeral service will be held at the washington cathedral. after that, president carter will head back to georgia aboard special admission 39 to georgia for a private funeral service and internment at t

the campaign were housed there, but as you see that motorcade make its way over to plains and into archerythe sight of his family home, i would imagine that you would see many local5 that you would see many locals who are paying tribute to not only a remarkable public figure, and an admirable present and post president, but also their neighbour and friend, and that is really important to keep in mind. ye5, ab5olutely, many people they are considering jimmy carter notjust a 39th president of the united states, but one of their pa5tor5, one of their neighbours, the guy that might come over and quite literally fix a creaking step, he was quite a handy man with his tool5. thank you. hang on with us if you can. i want to bring back robert strong, professor emeritu5, we were discussing jimmy carter, where di5cu55ing jimmy carter, where he grew up, we see the community gathered, leaving tho5e flag5 community gathered, leaving tho5e flags and saying goodbye. how do you think, growing up in the area, a state is not known for its presidents or much of a national 5tage for its presidents or much of a

he talks about being the only white family in archery. >> that's right. you can kind of see it in that image, i want to point out that farm bell that is suspended above the crowd there which is really about the title of his book, one of his many books an hour before daylight because that bell would ring an hour before daylight, when the family would rise and tend to the crops and the livestock. there is a lot of significance there. we will hear that ring 39 times in honor of the 39th president. as you mentioned, thement at the time when he was a young boy worked alongside not only his family but mock among a number of african american families who lived in the community, some were tenants on the farm. he talks about one family in particular, clarks, a woman named racial clark, african american woman, calling her one of the most of the most significant lasting impacts on his life, someone who taught him in his words how to behave, shared religious and moral values with him. so he really credits not only african american women with his rearing in addition t

the carters were one of the only white families in archery.jimmy carter grew up among black playmates and relatively free of the racial prejudice that was so, so endemic to that part of the world, partly because his mother, his mother, rejected that jim crow segregation, and it would inform his stance. as governor, he ushered in a new breed of southern governors and the new south by saying at his inauguration, when he was when he was went into the governorship in 1971. i say to you frankly that the time for segregation is over. >> and jon karl, you know, it strikes me that he certainly had this simple upbringing, and he carried that throughout his whole life as we were discussing, even in his post-presidency. you know, unlike so many others, jimmy carter didn't go on to give fancy speeches. he didn't join big boards. you know, being rich was never an ambition for him. he returned in many ways to this simple life from which he was raised. >> yeah. there's a model for ex-presidents that we've seen time and time again. and that is you leave the p

october 1st, 1924, in the small farming town of plains, georgia, and grew up in the nearby community of archery. his father, james earl carter senior, was a farmer and local businessman. his mother, lillian gordon carter gordy carter, was a registered nurse. he was educated in the public schools of plains, attended georgia southwestern college in the georgia institute of technology, and received a bs degree from the united states naval academy in 1946. in the navy, he became a submariner, serving in both the atlantic and pacific fleets and rising to the rank of lieutenant. chosen by admiral hyman rickover for the nuclear submarine program. he was assigned to schenectady, new york, where he took graduate work at union college in reactor technology and nuclear physics, and served as senior officer of the pre-commissioning crew of the seawolf, the second nuclear submarine. on july 7th, 1946, he married rosalynn smith of plains. when his father died in 1953, he resigned his naval commission and returned with his family to georgia. he took over the carter farms, and he and rosalynn operated carter's

carter's motorcade for funeral services today in georgia, leaving president carter's boyhood home, archery, georgia, his boyhood farm where they paused for a 39 bell salute to the former president. the motorcade is leaving. there next stop will be the georgia state capital where they will hold a moment of silence, then on to the carter presidential center for an arrival ceremony and service later today. you can stay with the c-span network for continuing coverage of the state funeral of president carter in georgia and washington, next thursday. that is it for today's washington journal. we will be back tomorrow morning at 7 a.m. eastern for another edition. have a great d >> president carter will lie in state at the u.s. capitol throughout wednesday. 9:30 a.m. eastern thursday, president carter will be taken to washington national cathedral for funeral services. later in the day, the former president will travel south to be buried at the carter family home in georgia. we will show these on the c-span networks, www.c-span.org and c-span now. >> the house will be in order. >> this year c-spa

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briefly stopping in archery, georgia. joining us is priya sridhar. good to see you again.? i think the motorcade is not stopping until it gets to atlanta at this point. what's the rest of the schedule look like? >> reporter: yeah, that's right, ali. the motorcade carrying the former president's remains is on its way here to atlanta where it will briefly stop at the georgia state capitol and governor kemp, along with other local leaders, will be leading a moment of silence before it ultimately comes here to the carter center where there will be a private service with carter's family members and, of course, some long-time staffers of the carter center. after that, he will lie in repose here and beginning at 7:00 p.m., members of the public who want to pay their last respects can do so here at the carter center until tuesday morning at 6:00 a.m. when his remains will be flown to washington, d.c. at that point, there will be another processional with a motorcade. and it will stop by the navy memorial briefly for a moment of silence, honoring, of course, his navy service. and t

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today the family traveled through georgia, stopping by the former president's boyhood home in archery, georgia before making its way to atlanta. you are watching live coverage on c-span. [drum beat] >> ceremonial. >> honor guard. attention. . >> present arms. ♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ >> good afternoon. we will have many chances this week to pay tribute to my grand father but it was important for us that we stop here. these buildings, as you all know are filled with his life not just because this is a museum to his life and not just because there's a collection of his bee loved payments but his spirit fills it place. the real reason that this spirit fills this place is because of the people who are standing here. the people in this room from the library, the museum and carter sister itself you all are the real keepers of my grandparents' legacy. jimmy carter library museum holds the historical legacy, tells their story which is really this unbelievable american story and you hold it and you present it for my kids and for their kids and for all of those other generations to come. to the p

i grew up on a peanut farm in georgia, and a community called archery that had about 50 families. almost all of whom were african-american. so were my playmates. in fact, it was during segregation times, but the only distinction among us or whoever had caught the biggest fish or could run the fastest or picked the most cotton in one day. i left home when i was 17 years old, world war ii was just beginning in 1941. i went to georgia tech, where i joined the navy and i went on to the naval academy at annapolis, and that is where i began to teach bible lessons on sunday. as a matter of fact, i took the -- i talked the children of families who were stationed there permanently. i later served as a submarine officer, and my last duty at sea in the pacific ocean was during the korean war. i served in the navy for 11 years, and i came back to georgia to a life of farming. one of the most memorable occasions i had was the volunteer of what they called a "pioneer missionary program." every year, i would go somewhere every year assigned by the convention to bring other people to christ. one

this is a live look from archery georgia, where carter grew up on his family's peanut farm. it's one of several places his motorcade will stop today. and later this morning, carter's body will be moved from the sumter medical center in americus, georgia, to atlanta. there will be a pause for a moment of silence at the capitol, where he once served as state senator and georgia's governor. his body will then be brought to the carter center in atlanta, where flowers and cards have been left since his death. it will then be moved to washington ahead of a state funeral on thursday. >> carter, a democrat, served one term as the 39th president from 1977 to 1981. he became the oldest living former president when he surpassed the record held by the late george h.w. bush in march of 2019. he died on sunday at the age of 100. cnn's eva mckend is joining us now from plains, georgia. good morning, eva. as you've been saying, carter's presence loomed large over this small town. >> it did. and it was perhaps the most consequential personal decision for him to return to this tiny community.

this is a live look at archery, georgia where president carter's hometown, boyhood home is.amily is expected to arrive at that location in 10 minutes. during that stop the national park service will render a salute to the late president ringing a historic farm bell 39 times in his honor. duty in south beach, oregon. -- judy in south beach, oregon. caller: carter was the first president that i voted for. i'm proud to say that. he spent his whole life -- he spent his whole life doing good things. he didn't -- everything he did was out of the love of people, of all different types of people. just really proud to say i voted for him. i followed him, and i can't think of anything bad to say about him. thank you, jimmy carter. thank you. host: judy in oregon. it was in 2008 that president carter spoke about his hopes for the future at a commencement address at liberty university. it is one of his last appearances on the network. here is a portion of his remarks. [video clip] >> when i became president and before i was inaugurated, when i was elected, i was given a brief by the mil

throughout the museum, starting with his childhood in the rural farm town of plains and the nearby archeryfficult segregation was for people of color. >> reporter: and it was the people of plains who helped catapult the small town peanut farmer to the governorship and ultimately the white house. >> people didn't know who he was. >> nobody had any idea. and some of the campaign videos talked about carter who, who is that? and there's a conversation about who he is and what he stands for. >> reporter: carter won resoundingly in 1976, putting his own stamp on the inauguration. >> he was the first to get out of the car. >> reporter: from this replica of the oval office to camp david, where president carter negotiated a peace agreement between the leaders of israel and egypt. >> you brought two arch enemies together and had a treaty signed. not many presidents can say they did that. >> reporter: but carter's presidency was mired with controversies from record inflation to the iranian hostage crisis, ultimately sealing his defeat against ronald reagan. the 39th president went on to accomplish th

we'll take a live pictures that's in in the neighboring community called the archery where jimmy cartercalled before daylight, and it is an important moment to him. this was an important town, plains, georgia, was a place where he came back to live after the white house. he could have gone on and had an illustrious career in the navy but came back after his father's peanut if business failed. after they go to the boyhood home, they're going to go up to atlanta. there's going to be a motorcade, and governor brian kemp's going to come outside of the state capitol, pay his respects, and there'll be a moment of silence. then president carter will lie in repose if at the carter center for a few days before going to washington for final good-byes including a ceremony at the national cathedral. and he will be buried next to his beloved wife, rosalynn carter, here in plains. back to you guys. guy: david, thank you very much for a this update. now to this story. yesterday family members of lyle and erik menendez met with the los angeles county district attorney to push for those brothers to be r

hearse in americus, georgia, and then there was another ceremony at carter's boyhood home and farm in archery, georgia, right here, where the two longest serving national park staffers rang the farm bell, 39 times. in carter's motorcade, also going through nearby plains where carter was born. people lining the streets to pay their respects. the motorcade is now slowly making its way from south georgia to atlanta, and in a few hours it will stop off at the georgia capitol in atlanta, where carter served one term as governor and as state senator. and after a moment of silence honoring his service, the motorcade will then head to the carter center in atlanta, where a service will be held later on there today, cnn's jeff zeleny is at the carter center for us. jeff, set the scene for us. for the rest of today's tributes. >> it's in the afternoon. the hours. >> well, fredricka, each one of those stops is a touchstone of former president jimmy carter's life and indeed his legacy. as you said, his motorcade is making its way north up to atlanta. he will be pausing for a moment at the atlantic capitol

our 39th president of the united states outside the farm where president jimmy carter grew up in archerye briefly after passing through carter's hometown of plains, georgia. we give you look right now of a look at the procession on its way to atlanta to the jimmy carter presidential library. joining me now is following the procession very closely first. >> i would say the word would be solemn. of course, former president carter was relatively unknown outside of georgia before he made his way to the white house. many people here feel very proud he is the one and only president from the state of georgia. of course, he entered public service, first in the georgia date send it and then the governors mansion. most of the people i have been speaking to coming out to the carter center ever since the news he passed last week, they remember him for the type of man he was, how down-to-earth he was, his humility. let's talk about what the mourners in his hometown of plains had to say this morning. ♪ >> the work that he did impacted the lives of millions . it was in a great way and it is fitting to

and he was literally the only white boy in archery. and all his playmates were african americans. he grew up in a sears, roebuck house again, just less than two miles away from plains that his father had built in the 1920s. they had no running water, they had no electricity. there was an outhouse. the biggest thing in jimmy carter's life as a teenager was in the 1930s, late 30s, when the house finally got electricity. so he really came from almost a 19th century american experience and lived to be 100, lived into the 21st century. so it's an extraordinary life. and i argue in my biography of him, the outlier, he was an outlier that he he really was probably i argued he was the most intelligent, the most hardworking, and certainly the most decent man to have occupied the white house in the 20th century. >> and to add to that, it's also the legacy of the family itself. you know, his mother, his brother, many people in his family died of pancreatic cancer. the fact that he lived this long and long enough to have all of these children and grandchildren, and for them all to be here for

the schools budget that dared to teach kids how to engage in hunting or teach them how to practice archery. those have been the basis while telling other schools that they cannot get actual federal funding unless they adopt toxic ideologies. this is an institution that is driven the epidemic of inflation in college tuition costs while subsidizing four-year college degrees not doing basically a thing for people that want to do one year vocational programs. the fact that the federal government should have never been involved in local education in the first place. so, remember one of the bases for the u.s. president is shut down an agency promoting the economy and efficiency. taking that and giving it back to the people meets at statutory test and that is why we will not just put a good person. i respect people that have served in that role. we will actually get in there and shut it down while moving certain of the remaining functions like loan collections to the u.s. department of treasury, that limited to the department of labor. that is how you actually drive change. i will go quickly thro

just moments ago, though, we saw a tribute to the former president at his boyhood home and farm in archery, georgia. the national park service honor guard paid tribute by ringing a farm bell, 39 times, of course, for the 39th president of the united states. and this comes after former and current secret service agents who protected carter during his lifetime escorted his casket to his hearse in an emotional ceremony. cnn's jeff zeleny joins me now. and as we see carter's casket going from where his life began in southwest georgia, coming here to atlanta, where its political life began. um, let's start with the journey, because i think a lot of what we'll talk about today is pre-white house and post-white house. >> they certainly made up the bulk of his century here on earth. but it is that improbable journey that he, quite literally now is tracing that is so important to his presidency, which was just four years. but his post-presidency here at the carter center, and i think it is that journey here back to georgia after losing the election, where he truly found his purpose as a citizen. an

and then there was this ceremony at carter's boyhood home and farm in archery, georgia, where the twogest serving national park staffers rang the farm. bell, 39 times. carter's motorcade, also driving through nearby plains, georgia, where he was born and died. people lining the streets to pay their respects. the motorcade is now slowly making its way to atlanta. in the next hour, it will stop at the georgia capitol, where carter served one term as governor and as state senator. and after a moment of silence honoring his service, the motorcade will then head to the carter center, where a service will be held later on today. carter will then lie in repose before heading to the nation's capital for another round of ceremonies. cnn's jeff zeleny is at the carter center for us. jeff, walk us through what we expect to happen later on. also. >> well, frederica, as you said, former president carter's motorcade is making its way to atlanta in about an hour or so. it is scheduled to go by the atlantic capitol and pause for a few moments. we're told that the carter's oldest son, jack carter, wil

. >> the late presidents motorcades first stop is carter's boyhood home in archery, georgia, then the georgia state capitol to honor his time as the state's governor before arriving at the jimmy carter presidential library for a funeral service and to give the public its first chance to say goodbye in person, he did everything he could for people, and i think that's that's a legacy in itself. carter will also be remembered for his diplomacy, championing of human rights and his life of service. >> a lot of people in this world are out there carrying on his legacy, so it doesn't fall to any of us in particular. and that's a that's a heartening thing, because it would be very difficult to live up to if you tried. >> in plains, georgia, brian abel reporting. >> all right, brian, thank you for that. joining me now is julian zelizer, a cnn political analyst and historian and professor at princeton university. good morning to you. julian, we were saying that in just a few hours from now, president jimmy carter's motorcade will make its way through his hometown of plains, georgia, which is a

across the country that dare to teach kids how to -- engage in hunting or teach them how to practice archery those have been the bases for denying funding to schools telling other schools they can't get actual federal funding unless they adopt toxic divisive rairnl and gender ideologies and racial quota systems in their hiring. this is an institution that has driven the epidemic of inflation in college tuition costs while subsidizing four year college degrees not doing basically a thing for people who want to pursue one vocational programs the root cause the original sin was the fact that the federal government should have never been involved in local education in the first place. so remember one of the bases for the u.s. president to shut down an agency from moting come and efficiency, taking that $80 billion giving it back to the people meets that statutory test that's why we won't put a good person and i respect betsy delaware vas and people served in the role, we will actually get in there and shut it down. while moving certain of the remaining functions like -- plf loan collections to t

archery north still is this probability of a recession that we have in the next 12 months, which is akinout rally. i cannot say enough good things about the u.s. consumer. i don't even know where to start. all-time high in household net worth. 20 straight months of positive real wages. 20 straight months. then the coup de grace in the last session. people's first time holmes became there forever homes because of the mortgage rate and they are locked in. that is the biggest reason we did not go into recession in 2022 and 2023. dani: basically everyone who thought they would be a recession last year just got slapped in the face and completely removed those calls. does that mean when you see a selloff prompted by something like yields you just want to buy that dip. it's about consumers spending, a strong economy that has been able to withstand high yield. phil: people talk about wire yields moving higher. last week with that payroll report there's no such thing as good news is bad news when it comes to the labor market. if you are producing jobs, that's a good sign. yields went up and that