i'm 5eu78 -- i'm a member of the american institute of architects and a certified architect with the american kling of -- college of architects. i support rebuilding cpmc for the following two reasons. one, i support patient care. as you know, health care practice has changed since the cpmc facilities were built 40 years ago. best practice now calls for more space to could -- accommodate family and friends and for more privacy and separation and seismic stability. better facilities that improve staff working conditions result in improved patient care. secondly as a resident, the improved street scape shown tonight in renderings are welcomed and will improve and enhance pedestrian experiences, public safety, urban vitality around all the three campuses. as a health care planer, tertiary health care planning is complex and i believe the scale is appropriate to meet the needs of the health care needs now and in the future. i feel the building sizes and designs are in line with the surrounding neighborhood densities and architecture so i support the economic development that these facili

i have to ask beverly, you hired an architect. >> i think it's in appreciation of, that architects can appreciate the value that other architects bring to something. we had several factors. one was that we were very busy ourselves with keeping our country clients happy and the idea of taking the time to focus on this wasn't a good use of time. tenant improvement was not our special. we talked with a number of interior oriented firms. we are very ambitious and what we're offering. we wanted to hire an interior design firm that could bring that kind of specialness to this space. we are very are happy with what they brought to us >> did you learn anything about working with architects >> i remember when they put their proposal, they were more concerned about having a client that was an architect. we had a lot of ideas ourselves and had done a lot of the preliminary work. we haven't really shown that. may be we did a lot. but these work areas and how the project manager gathers around. we had our own ideas. i think we were probably a good client because we were able to articulate and able

because i kind of look at myself as the architect. >> reporter: the architect of what?ect of the smile. >> reporter: this is is not cheap construction. it can cost as much as $3,000 to have a custom-made convenient ear of fingernail thin porcelain fitted to a single unsightly tooth. even a smirk can reveal six teeth port improving, each one requiring a precise calibration of shape and color to improve on nature. inconspicuously. >> when you look at nature, nature is not perfect. so i try to create symmetrical restoration, sim tree to the left and right side. i like to call my restoration natural symmetry. >> reporter: imper imperfect. >> imperfection is what's natural. things too perfect is too fake. >> reporter: the thought of deliberately designing in physical flaws may seem unappealing especially if you're the sort who feels nature's already given you that in abundance for free. >> you and i will bite together. good. >> reporter: in new york, jason kim has more than 0 years experience as a dental ceramicist crafting convenient ears and false teeth for patients convin

don't become an expert in construction and architect. i sigh that as a problem. people go beyond their levels of ability. >> the next page the permits and licenses required. building permites required for construction. building code says you need a permit for everything except gut sxers down spouts and wall paper. you need a permit for most other things. you need plan review permitting. when you come and pay a large fee for us to review your plans before you get your permits. the street use permit. public works street mapping where the dumpster goes. issue permits for construction work taking place in the public rieft way. fire sprinkler permits get reviewed by fire departments. signs have a separate requirement under the planning and building code. although they are usually included with the building perm permit. if someone wants a restaurant design the sign acknowledges part of the over all permit otherwise it's separate. and lek signs have different permit requirements. additional licenses include those that the contractor needs to build including his contract

color, the architect finally met with the neighbors. this is the first and only legitimate meeting where neighbors could choose to attend at a legitimate time. the architect had four months to revise the drawings. we got them a week and a half ago to review them. many of us have full-time jobs and cannot spend the time that we need to evaluate this. it may perhaps be another delay tactic by the developer. while they address small concerns, they do not reflect the major points that were made above. and at the first meeting the drawings are still inconsistent with the neighborhood. the proposed roof line does not step down as do other buildings in the neighborhood. if air and light of all adjacent neighbors are still negatively effected. none of them have continuous living space, "continuous" being the keyword. it is not proportional to the sizes of the lot and building. given the fact that this is a small lot, it would be far more appropriate for them to by more lot. please reject this proposal. the architect and developer continue to wa

vice president miguel: when were you hired on t architect? >> i believe it was like september of 2009. y yes, about a year ago. vice president miguel: thank you very much. i have some of the same misgivings that commissioner sugaya has. if there had been a competent architect and a competent engine engineer, we wouldn't be here. and possibly if the d.r. requ t requester, knowing there was a problem, had hired his electric legal consult at the time people are always told to hire their lawyers, when there is a problem, we might not be here either. i actually don't have a lot of problem with the building. the privacy issue of 30 feet doesn't get to me. i'm sorry. that does not compute for me. i know the area well. a very good friends of mine lives directly next to the two lots of the sinkhole. i have been over to that house many times before, directly after and since. plus, i had many business clients directly in the area although not either of those particular homes. so, i don't have a lot of problem with the building. and under normal circumst

i want to thank or knowledge of the architect presentation that i thought was very nice. i know that we should not be lured by pretty pictures, but whether that is the location, i also want to and dollars the community concern. i understand all of them from jobs and traffic concerns to the doctor that mentioned psychiatric funding. we feel that every day. folks on the street and i am sure need more medical attention than they are able to get. but what kind of draw questions in my mind about the traffic flow, how many rooms and maybe some conflicting information. how many beds, what the ratio of service folks and hotel workers are two guests and how that relates to patients. when trying to draw a conclusion, when it was running at full capacity, it was somewhat comparable to what this might be. i think the architects have done a very good job of getting the vehicles off the streets. and really trying to get that loading and unloading off of san francisco streets. this presentation was helpful to me and hopefully, we can get down the road on both sides. commissioner moore:

thank you, staff, architects. >> ok. thank you, commissioners. you, unfortunately, still have a general public comment. >> we are at general public comment? is there any general public comment on items not on today's agenda? seeing none, in general public comment is closed and the meeting is adjourned.

thank you, staff, architects. >> ok. thank you, commissioners. you, unfortunately, still have a general public comment. >> we are at general public comment? is there any general public comment on items not on today's agenda? seeing none, in general public comment is closed and the meeting is adjourned. >> i work with the department of environment and we are recycling oil. thank you. we can go into a refinery and we can use it again. they do oil changes and sell it anyway, so now they know when a ticket to a. hal>> to you have something you want to get rid of? >> why throw it away when you can reuse it? >> it can be filtered out and used for other products. >>

i'm an architect and i'm also a general contractor. i've done three projects including my own house. the spaces are dry, they're warm, they're comfortable. and also recently i'm doing a project on liberty hill and i've priced out that project and there's nothing extraordinary about the cost involved. [inaudible]. i wanted you to see these models, maps and models. on the right-hand side is the proposal. on the lower left is our proposal. and then the existing condition is in the upper left and you can -- again you, can see how they're building right above the slope of the terrain and we want them to have a nice house, we want them to enjoy their house and we respect their needs to build it, we think they're a very nice family. we just want them to be more sympathetic to the needs of the surrounding neighbors and do it in a way that is appropriate for them. thank you. president olague: thank you. >> there's been a lot of talk about the sight in and ultimately the -- sunlight and ultimately the natural light in the home is the main issue.

if we go the way commissioner miguel is suggesting, this was not even the architect from 1998. there's a big hole there. i'm prepared to go back to the 1998 overall envelope description with whoever's architect designing it what needs to be. i don't care. but something will have to probably change between that 1998 -- >> is that to the project sponsor or architect, you're giving that instruction? >> yes. and i would still think that the repeat of this commission in september is warranted because we're going down a very siply slope given the history of this project. i would like a present of all of us to support what we still, as commissioner miguel just summarized quite well, is unacceptable to us. we're here to support it under certain conditions. and those are go back to '98 overall envelope description, the architect take it's wherever he needs to take it and we will look at it one more time and send it on its merry way. >> commissioner sugaya? >> commissioners, the motion on the floor is for continuance until september 22. i did not hear the maker of the motion give instruc

. >> i suggest an architect. these are people who are trained to look at the appearance and make decisions. but i have seen it to great advantage, especially in the older buildings, victorian and edwardian period >> i agree with you to go with a professional. but is there a particular group? another list in the yellow pages and all that. for the exterior, you talk about the curb appeal, something like windows. where do i find a list of these people, without having to trouble a realtor who is maybe just interested in selling it? >> i think in that, just to address if different ways, you might want to get a couple different opinions. it does not take long. you might want to get an opinion from a realtor, even though they may just be interested in selling it. that may be true or may not be true. a 50 minute opinion might be worth it and help round out your decision from your next professional, who might be the architect, as warren suggested, especially now, because architects are out looking for work. they are happy

>> howard long, architect. practicing for 30 years as an architect, i worked on long commercial, institutional projects, remodelings, historic preservation. in all projects, we have building codes, planning codes, energy codes, americans with disabilities act, funding constraints, all designed professionals deal and balance any of these issues. some of the projects that we work on are historic resources and that's actually a fairly small percentage of the total project that the design profession works on. but in those

the scale of project of an architect and i can speak about scale. and i think it is in keeping with the surroundings and i think that is a good match. and they provide detail and i think it was well thought out. and adequate parking and the units have good quality and we felt that it was a good xachl. i am not speaking for myself, but i -- i am speaking for myself and i know that liberty hill supports it and the consensus was that the project provides an example for what liberty hill neighborhood association and neighbors in general rant to see in the neighborhood to use this as a measuring stick of other projects as well. and this project seems to address a lot of the concerns and issueses and would be a good fit and good addition to the neighborhood. thank you very much. >> my name is john murray. i am local resident in very close proximity to this project and i am 100.06% for this project. and this is the shadow thing and to me it seems a bit ridiculous. san francisco is a beautiful city, a world class city and i enjoy it and am very much looking

my name is john arden and i am the architect of the project and we have one of the owners here at the hearing. so allison surreal and the owners of the property approached me and currently have a two bedroom house. one of the bedrooms and they also have a daughter and the bedroom is 7 by 9 for the daughter and when she puts a bed in there, there is barely any room to move. we looked at how to come up with an addition to the house to seven them and they wanted to have a larger family room area and a third bedroom upstairs, and so we looked at the most economical way to do this and the only way to do this would be to add a small, very discrete addition in the rear to add on to the existing house would have required a full seismic upgrade and numerous upgrades to the foundation and they are on a very limited budget. when we did approach her at the pre-ap hearing she brought along her council which i was very surprised about but there was a lot of issues that were brought up. one was about the bamboo that was growing on the surreal-engleman's property which after the meeting they promptly

. >> both of these technologies encourage architects to build taller buildings. engineering and materials science provided a higher quality of steel to build with, and having passenger elevators meant it was the necessary anymore to climb a long flight of stairs to get to the top of the building. the elevator made the upper floors of the building more attractive than they were before. >> here we were at the historic st. francis hotel, which was actually a representation of the evolution of elevators. can you tell us more about san francisco history here at the st. francis? >> sure. st. francis demonstrates well the evolution of elevated technology. and substantially damaged the 1906 earthquake and rebuilt in 1907 or 1908, and extend it again in 1913. then a new tower was added in 1932, so there is all sorts of elevator technology you can see at the st. francis that very much represents the building history of san francisco. >> i understand there is a really old elevator still operating here. >> that is right, the elevator installed in the 1913 expansion. we can g

architect's cost was approximately $3,000. it could of god to seismic reinforcement, building features, or other things. the city has chosen the most cumbersome, most expensive, and most time-consuming process that can be imagined. the result of it is that it discourages any type of increase to residential housing. >> i have a field services director helen partnership with the preservation. i worked with the organization have a local government streamlining and demanding ordnances for educating of the benefits of historic preservation. organizations have existed in california for the distinct purpose of preserving the history of california and the resources to reflect the history. the goal of historic preservation like many other planning tools is not about stopping that change. it is about managing the change. it is about the sense of community pride, for future generations to enjoy. >> it will have clear processes and the incentives [chime] thank you. >> my name is sarah haden, i've worked in construction where i currently l

last speaker. >> howard wong, architect. the vacation of the street -- there are positive points and- points. but i think it is important that the neighbors addition to that property be clearly notified of the intent of the library. there have been very few drawings or models that clearly show property lines being approached. if you look at the presentation today, it is unclear to the average person with the property line or context of the construction is relative to the adjacent properties. from 1988 to august 2008, there has been a process that moved in a certain direction. that direction was open space on the triangle. open space is not a bad thing. no one wants to have construction on the street. 19 feet 6 inches would take up a large percentage of the open space that would be achievable, if the street were closed for a park. in fact, the current master plan depends on the closure of the street for more open space. if you were to close the street and add open space on the street and the triangle today, you would have mor

another is an architect. this was just prior to the purchase by mr. sollner, and i have the existing four planned by two independent people, independent professionals, that are completely different. mr. sollner would like us to believe he has virtually no changes, and that is an old trick, by saying something existed when, in fact, it did not. vice president garcia: he is asking a reasonable question. had this been given to the permit holder? would you give him a copy so that he would be reassured? you are not allowed to speak from the audience. you might get up and meet her so she does not have to go all of the way to you to do that. the commissioner hwang: could you please put it on the overhead so i know what you are looking at? >> this is the existing floor plan. they are nearly identical. what i have handed out our plans just prior to the purchase of the property by mr. sollner that shows that the four plants for the existing are fraudulently identical to the proposed plan. an appraiser went through a property. and if you look on the sheet, where

>> i am the architect. the electrical form you are seeing on the lower right side is a two-story glass pavilion that has a detailed element on the ground level and has a special conference room on the second level. it is partially with in the lobby space and partially outside. it is about 18 feet tall. commissioner hwang: i am talking about what appears to be a horizontal -- >> that element here? that is the ceiling. commissioner hwang: i get it now. thank you. it is partially out said of the building. -- outside of the buildling. >> i think it is about 8 feet out. in that particular case, that goes to the property line. commissioner hwang: on the right side? >> you are talking about it elliptical thing? how far does the project out? from the face of the building, that is approximately 8 feet out from the face of the building, which should set it back 7 feet from the property line, six or 7 feet. president goh: can you point out the mechanicals in that same picture? correct this element back here -- vertica

i am with mark jensen of jensen architect. he was one of the architects to be chosen to do the presidio habitat. when you heard about this project, what inspired you about that call? >> our inspiration is a great blue heron. it was the site itself that attracted us. this is an incredibly beautiful outdoor room. we did a bit of reverse engineering once we knew we wanted to work here. which animals live here? the great blue heron jumped out at us. we walked around, and quickly, you get into another pace. you slow down, leave the city behind you. you can feel the wind and the breeze. in our increasingly frenetic, fast-paced, connected life, the chance to be of here and slow down a bit was part of the agenda. as part of the installation, it was suggested that this would be deliberately not mowed because it would allow the sustaining of insects, plants, that would graduate -- that would gravitate to the area. >> that is right. i think you quickly notice that. >> thank you for being here. presidio habitat is an exhibition at the pre

>> i am with the associated architects. within the dwelling units, which are not air-conditioned, the concrete ceiling is typically exposed. in most public areas, which may be heated and cooled with forced air, that is where you get the dropped ceiling. also, corridors and public areas. >> the dwelling units do not have air-conditioning? >> they do not. they have heating but not air conditioning. >> do they have outside air? >> absolutely, they have windows and they also have a system called z-duct, which provides for a share even when the windows are closed. >> one of the reasons they have the systems, ever since 1974, chapter 12-day of the building code requires that you have sound transmission isolation between dwelling units so they cannot hear their neighbors, and between the residential units and the cars at outside. that specifically says that if you are in one of these noise areas, which are on the transit corridor, that you must design the building such that you can ventilate the resident units with the windows clo

my position -- i don't have any other questions here for the architect. it's not based on people's views. i really don't care if the neighbor's views get blocked or not. and the positioning of the space doesn't have to be, you know, where the living room is currently. i'm just saying space. an equivalent number of square footage and the height can be placed wherever the architect feels that it would work best and whether that's towards the front with the balcony or toward the rear or whatever, that doesn't matter to me either. so i'm just saying that at the fifth floor, we have something that's about the equivalent in size, height and whatever is the current living room and that that space can be placed wherever they want on that elevation. >> do we have motion -- should i call the question? oh, commissioner antonini. >> just in looking at the plans here and i guess what i'm hearing from commissioner sugaya is to take off what's marked as the living room. >> no, i'm saying take off the back. >> the equivalent of what would be the -- >> marked dining room

>> howard long, architect. practicing for 30 years as an architect, i worked on long commercial, institutional projects, remodelings, historic preservation. in all projects, we have building codes, planning codes, energy codes, americans with disabilities act, funding constraints, all designed professionals deal and balance any of these issues. some of the projects that we work on are historic resources and that's actually a fairly small percentage of the total project that the design profession works on. but in those cases, obviously, there are equally important guidelines to the public good. preservationists i found are pretty nice people. they are pretty agreeable people but if you work with them, a plan checker or any number of inspectors, there are a lot of accommodating solution that's can be found. >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> good afternoon. thank you very much for calling this hearing. did you know what you were getting into when you did it? first of all, mr. ginsburg said the process was b

required additional staff time from the library department of public works and often the project architects to teaped the meeting. thrults in an average 12 to 15 hours of staff time conservatively for each meeting. on at least two occasions, the item was continued after the public and staff waited considerable time for public testimony. the library had followed every legal requirement for each project and worked closely with planning and the department of public works and it had been the practice of the branch improvement program to initiate landmark designation after the completion of a given branch renovation. the h.p.c. discussed reversing this practice so they could weigh in on the approval of each respective project. however, because all approvals and permits had been acquired and these projects were either construction or beginning construction, the library was concerned any delay or changes to the project would incur additional cost and potentially jeopardize a program. while h.p.c. did not have legal authority to approve the project, the library nonetheless engaged with h.p.c. to ad

you want to do renovation, you get a building permit, you work with an architect like mr. learner here, who is an expert in access compliance, and the architect helps you solve the problem and this is relatively easy. we have an extremely high standard in san francisco for disabled access when we check plans and we do inspections and what we expect of the architect and the owners and that includes typically, new buildings, everything must comply with all the building codes for access. they become extremely accessible buildings from a physical point of view. for the renovation work, the triggers foreign vaition, if you are doing a structural repair, you have to make buildings accessible to some level. if you are doing an alteration, you have to make them accessible and the state has defined what these various words mean, alteration, revision, structural repair. if you are doing none of these things, changing carpets or changing your displays, the state law does not come into play. the building department does not enforce the americans with disabilities act directly. our bui