big people arenourished. they are not healthy. tom: but again, why?arm subsidies, $20 billion a year, and 85% of that is going to corn, wheat, and soy, all these products that go into fast food or highly-processed foods. we are only subsidizing dairy and livestock to the tune of 15% of that, and fruits and vegetables 1%. betty: what about the horsemeat scandal? i want to get your thoughts on that. tom: bobby should comment on that one. you're a horse guy. betty: that's right, you own some thoroughbred horses. bobby: i do. obviously, as an american, i cannot imagine the idea of it. i know in other countries, it is commonplace, but not for here. mario: big time. tom: i do not know. when you're looking at a shortage of protein, why are we not looking at the sources of protein? mario: because those kind of animals are very expensive to grow as a protein source. we should really be thinking about bugs. let's just start getting used to it. there's an infinite supply. bugs are definitely the future of protein if we are going to feed a growing planet. i'm tel