we're back with areva, elie and harry.reva, it is incredible to think this part of the building has been sealed off and preserved and i was so interested in the instructions the jurors got. they were told, they can go in, move at their own pace. they needed to avoid touching anything. and there would be nothing in there explained to them. so, it would just be basically their own impressions when they saw broken glass or blood or teddy bears. i have to believe this would make them more inclined for the death penalty. is that true? >> well, clearly, alisyn, that is the purpose of this visit. the prosecutors wanted these jurors to see this preserved building and to see the bloodstains, to see the teddy bears, the broken windows as a part of proving the aggravating factors necessary under florida capital punishment laws. they wanted to establish that this shooter engaged in cruel and calculated and heinous conduct and that his conduct rises to the level that would make him a candidate for the death penalty under florida law. t

cnn legal analyst areva martin, she joins me now.ing at all lessens the shock and the pain of seeing that image or thinking about this happening seven decades ago. and yet, after seven hours of testimony, the grander decided there wasn't enough evidence to indict her own kidnapping or manslaughter charges. now, there is a difference between how people think about moral culpability, legal culpability and what a grand jury would be deciding, right? >> well, absolutely laura. it is shocking as the story is and in the horrors of it is, even 70 years later it is still as painful to think about what happened to emmett till. i am not surprised that the grand jury did not come back with an indictment for caroline brian. we know that there's been efforts over the last 10 to 15 years to have the case, you know, reopened and to have it re-investigated and to have charges brought against carolyn bryant donham. but every time that there has been a real investigation of the facts of this case, the outcome has been the same. there's been a determin

let's talk more about this with areva martin, a civil rights attorney and cnn legal analyst.o see you. this sheriff's deputy testified he was instructed to take crash scene photos and then he later sent them to a fire department official and no one has been able to identify some of the parties. so where is the defense going with this? what will it be able to do? >> the defense, fred, has been trying to argue that these photographs, first of all, were never disseminated widely. they're disputing vanessa bryant's claim that these photos were distributed not only to others in the sheriff's department and fire department but also that they were ever distributed online. the sheriff's department is also claiming that any emotional distress vanessa bryant has suffered is a result of the death of her husband and daughter and not as a result of the photographs that were taken, according to vanessa bryant, shared widely. but there is a lot of confusion about what happened that day, fred. we know that this firefighter, this first responder who said that he was instructed to take the pho

cnn legal analysis and attorney areva martin is with us. areva, thank you for staying with us. look at this in total, it just adds to what i feel has been a damning story since it first broke. not only to have this fbi filing now that outlines a number of documents that recovered. that as to earlier statements which came from the trump team themselves, that they knew that these documents were classified. i mean, this just goes from bad to worse, it seems. >> yeah, absolutely, john, you have to question the reasoning and logic behind the trump team's filing of this request for special. master there is no winning position for trump at this point. even if a masters appointed, it is not going to stop this investigation into trump and potentially others who were involved in concealing documents from the department of justice. at best, it may slow down the investigation. but it will not end that investigation. and, it gave the justice department an opportunity to lay out its facts and refute those misstatements, and just plain lies, that have been told by donald trump and many of sup

. >> but, there is some history to this, areva martin, because this vote comes -- out there's a 2019 state constitution does protect the right to an abortion. that was a 61 decision. >> absolutely. that's why this amendment is not surprising to me that the voters in kansas rejected the amendment to try to remove this constitutional protection under the kansas constitution. because the supreme court in kansas had already spoken, had already said that this constitutional protection was valid. and the voters in kansas today confirmed that women should have the right to choose in that state. >> so, listen, back to the floor here, you know, there's gonna be this consolation about this was the language was a big issue. we're talking about -- on tuesday. and i heard, as i said, listening to the conservative pundits, either on radio or on television saying that, you know, while voters are confused. they seem to -- , that candace can vote in the way that they were voting that it was looking like it was going. it doesn't seem that it was ambiguous. i mean, is that just an excuse? >> look, i th

areva martin is here for us as well. thank you both for joining us. good evening.x jones posted a video tonight saying that he admitted that he was wrong but he didn't spread these conspiracy theories on purpose. i mean, give me a break. he also asked people to spend money on his website to buy t-shirts. >> and in the same video went on to not only say that this is a major victory for the truth, but then went on the to say that the whole trial was some kind of a democratic party plot against him. i mean, don, he just cannot help it. and i do wonder if that $2 million statement did affect the jury. they thought maybe this was a large amount. it is a big amount, $4 million, but the plaintiffs in this case, the parents of 6-year-old jesse lewis, were asking for $150 million. in return they got $110,000 plus $2 million for his part of it, and then his mother, sandra -- excuse me, scarlet got another $2 million. a penalty phase and then the punitive phase is tomorrow. we just have to wait and see. but again, this is a payment. he did have to noelgapologize i court. the

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i'm joined by cnn legal analyst areva martin, areva, so good to see you. on the witness stand. how far could that go in persuading the jury in this case? >> i think, fred, vanessa bryant's testimony was very compelling, and it's going to be really significant, as these jurors have to deliberate on determining if the sheriff's department, if the defendants in this case should be held accountable. i think some of the responses from the sheriff himself were completely inadequate, him saying he didn't know for certain that all of the photographs had been deleted, evidence coming out in this trial that there was no forensic examination of the cellphones where these officers actually had pictures. then this mystery person, fred, this person who had photographs air dropped to him but no one's been able to identify this person. he hasn't surfaced in this litigation, he hasn't surfaced in this trial. i think all of these are very damning facts for the defendant in this case. >> so the defense also, you know, pressed bryant on whether her goal, you know, was for the

>> earlier i spoke with areva martin, and she weighed in. >> what we're hearing from a lot of republicans is that he somehow declassified all of these documents and implicit in their arguments is that because he engaged in these broad kale declassifications is that the documents belonged to him. we know donald trump had the idea that government property was his property and he had the authority to do whatever he wanted include handling them in such a negligent and cavalier way. we don't know when he made those notations on the documents. what we do know is that surveillance tape was turned over to the department of justice and that they saw people going in and out of the storage facility. they saw boxes of the documents being stuffed into containers. and there was lots of concerns about how safe at all these documents were. we don't even know if duplicates were made, photocopies were made, pictures were taken f the documents were uploaded onto some sort of computer system. there's so much we don't know, but what we did learn today, kim s that kim, is that donald trump removed documents th

let's bring in areva martin. when it comes to executive privilege, i think as we talk about what these conversations could be between pat cipollone's attorneys and the doj, that grand jury, i should say, what is covered by executive privilege? just remind us here. what conversations could potentially be covered. >> what we know is that pat cipollone and others have claimed executive privilege to allow them basically to avoid answering questions about conver conversations, private conversations they claim they had with donald trump leading up to and including on january 6. we know with respect to the january 6 committee that pat cipollone, although he appeared before that committee, that he used executive privilege oftentimes to avoid answering specific questions. and this is going to test, quite frankly, whether that privilege holds now that we know that there is a grand jury, a criminal investigation taking place with respect to donald trump. these conversations that pat cipollone's attorneys are having with the

the theory, but what have they said about this case because there has been quite a reaction to what arevaalking about, but the prospect of communications being used in these types of cases and beyond? >> absolutely. facebook and its parent company made us that this was not going to be an investigation in abortion. they said in a quote, nothing in the valid warrants we received from local law enforcement in early june prior to the supreme court's decision mentioned abortion. the warrants consented charges related to a criminal investigation , and court documents indicate that police at the time were investigating a case of a stillborn baby who was burned and burie d, not a decision to have an abortion, but this case does raise question about how these tech companies will respond to law enforcement requests for data that could lead to the prosecution of people obtaining or offering abortions in other cases in other states. >> a lot disturbing about this case. we will continue to follow this thread because, as he both articulated, the nuances involved here really bear our coverage. thank you

areva martin, thank you for being here with us.ciate it. >>> christopher wray is warning bureau agents and employees to be vigilant due to unprecedented wave of threats against the agency following the mar-a-lago search. sources tell cnn that the two agents who signed the warrant, as well as the federal judge who authorized it are among those receiving threats. we're also finding out more about the suspect who attempted to breach an fbi field office in cincinnati. cnn's brynn gingras has the story. >> reporter: new details tonight about the armed suspect who was shot and killed after alemleged trying to get in the fbi's field office in cincinnati. after the search at mar-a-lago estate may have inspired him. the ohio state patrol identifying him 42-year-old ricky shiffer of columbus, a source tells cnn brought a high-powered rifle to the fbi office. we've learned just minutes after the attempted breach, a post was made by an account bearing shiffer's name on the donald trump founded site truth social. well, i thought i had a way thr

that's what is so disturbing. >> let me ask you, areva, on that point, the idea of having a subpoena issued to the holder of the platform that has the message is, what is at the fact that this is related to abortion related charges that makes this distinct? or this is actually in the essence not a pure novelty, right? the idea of being able to get into data? >> yes, we've seen other cases, laura, not involving abortions where law enforcement has issued a subpoena to a social media site, and they have released that information to law enforcement. but in this case, this abortion post roe v. wade, there's been a lot of talk about menstrual cycle tracking apps, and that information perhaps being made available to law enforcement, and then in this case, just a conversation between a mother and a daughter about what may have been a miscarriage, what may have been an abortion, again, being made available to law enforcement. this is what women have dreaded. is that law now reaches into every aspect of your life, including what you believe to be a private conversation with your own mother on

. >>> cnn legal analyst areva martin joins us from los angeles.nks so humuch for being here with us. so much was redacted, so what did we learn here? >> well we learned, kim, that donald trump was both pet ewe lent and dishonest. petulant because he refused to turn over documents that the national archives and the department of justice repeatedly asked him to turn over and dishonest in the sense that he told them in january when he delivered boxes to the national archives that that was all that he had. that he was turning over all of the classified and sensitive documents that he had taken to mar-a-lago and now we know that to be a complete falsehood. even though the affidavit was heavily redacted, names and other key pieces of information were not made available to the public, there was enough there, kim, to determine that donald trump acted in a way that potentially could cause him to be in a great deal of legal trouble. >> yeah. you know, is that what you're saying that he didn't turn over the stuff when he was asked and so on, that he wasn't t

. >> areva, a good point to finish on.reva martin, civil rights attorney, and legal analyst, thank you. >> thanks, john. >> we'll take a short break. when we come back, when the most important figures of the late 20th century has died. we'll take a look back at the life and legacy of the last soviet leader, mikal gorbachev. seeing my daughter have a heart attack, it shook me. aspirin helps reduce the chancnce of another heart attack by 31%. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. ♪ it's the most wonderful time of the year ♪ claritin provides non-drowsy symptom relief from over 200 indoor and outdoor allergens, day after day. feel the clarity and make today the most wonderful time of the year. live claritin clear. a is for awareness, because knowing that your chronic kidney disease in type 2 diabetes could progress to dialysis is important. b is for belief that there may be more you can do. just remember that k is for kidneys and kerendia. for adults living with ckd in type 2 diabetes, kerendia i

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areva martin is joining us as well.hen you hear about the punitive damages, $45.2 million in addition to the $4.1 million yesterday? >> i'm elated, wolf. these families, these parents deserve this and more. the kind of conduct that alex jones engaged in is reprehensible. punitive damages are designed to punish that kind of conduct. this is just the beginning. this is approximately $50 million. but this set of parents, but we know there are multiple other lawsuits where default judgments have been determined and that they will move into the damages stages. so this is just the beginning. there could be tens of millions of dollars in judgments against alex jones for his conduct related to the lies that he spread about the sandy hook shooting. so this is a tremendous victory for plaintiffs, for these plaintiffs and for all of the plaintiffs that have filed lawsuits based on his lies. >> good point. good point ip deed. we'll get more reaction. everyone stand by. miguel marquez, give a sense of what is happening in the courtr

weapons-grade plutonium from a deposit in africa , which is being developed by the french company arevaare now rapidly losing this region. well, this is a separate topic, but it happened somewhere if they i am mistaken, at the end of the twentieth year in december of the twentieth year, when i received information that some components from this very place of birth had sailed somewhere. uh, aside at you to the northeast. here, there, in short, to europe, yes, i will not name the countries now. in short, as i understand it, if there were only weapons-grade plutonium produced by the ukrainians themselves, then this would be a local task, and we are ready to come and say some kind of ah-ah-ah, everyone would have been forgotten and hushed up. and this stigma is there in the gun is much more serious, but something is stored there that absolutely should not be stored there, and this means the crossing of such red lines, which, in principle, will cause a big scandal in the united states because this topic is for them. well, they are still sacred distribution, yes, that is, you assume that this