diane diamond and attorney areva martin.ve been so curious about this headline and this ruling ever since i saw. let me begin with you diane, because you actually, you first broke the news about accusations of an inappropriate relationship with michael jackson, and a young boy back in 1993. and i wonder beast from, then to now, so many years have passed what was your reaction to friday's ruling, well i was not surprised because so many states -- they're old statute of limitation limitations, so i know the two men's attorney, benson aldi. i knew he wasn't going to give up, and i think it comes down to this. if the catholic church is responsible for gets priests did, and if the boy scouts are responsible for what there is scouts did, this is what the appellate court ruled. the same standard should apply to the businesses of michael jackson, even though he owned them solely himself. >> areva, i want to unpack that. people might hear this and say, wait a second, they can now go back to court and sue the jackson estate again? or

areva, it's good to have you with us. >> i rosemary. >> so, in a historic, move former u.s. president donald trump has been indicted for a fourth time. trump, rudy giuliani, mark meadows, and 16 others are criminally charged on 41 counts in connection with efforts to overturn trump's defeat in the georgia state election. now, trump is charged with a counts, including violating the states racketeering act. what stands out to you and what is trump's legal jeopardy here? >> well, rosemary, this is a historic day and not in a positive way. we have never seen the country seen -- to be both white and that is in addition to a civil lawsuits that have been filed against him as well. i think the most shocking is the expansive nature, we knew it was coming, we did know how many individuals would be indicted, we didn't know the expansive nature of the charges in the indictment, and we see now, not only donald trump, but to some of his most trusted attorneys, his campaign staff, individuals from the u.s. department of individuals that were in his presidential cabinet and other low-level

. >> civil rights attorney and legal affairs commentator areva martin is joining us now.dge says the detective violated court rules not once but twice. he revealed evidence that the judge had explicitly said cannot be given to the jury when he was testifying. and then he withheld evidence from both the prosecutor and the defense. could there be consequences, and should there be consequences for this police officer who who's supposed to be upholding the law? >> good morning, sara. i absolutely hope there are consequences for this police officer. it's unimaginable that this police officer would have been allowed to not turn over this key piece of evidence, and one of the pieces of evidence at issue is the videotape interview of mr. gibson after he reported this crime of being shot at, unprovoked, by this father and son. that the prosecution did not go into court before the trial began, requesting and demanding that this officer turn over this evidence and requesting perhaps that the officer be held in contempt or jailed himself for refusing to turn over the evidence -- just

so let's bring in attorney and legal affairs commentator areva martin. these two roads would be intersecti intersecting, and now we have specifics of that. we have trial date of march 4 in the federal election subversion case. what did you make of the judge's decision to set the trial date for that day? >> it is a big victory for the prosecution. we know jack smith's team argued had they would be ready in january. donald trump's team had requested the trial date be extended out until april of 2026. so the march date obviously is a lot closer to the original date requested by the prosecution. and you have trump's team arguing that they need all of this additional time because there are so much documents and so much witnesses and it would it would be a miscarriage of justice for the trial to proceed on that calendar. but many say this is a regurgitation of the january 6 committee investigation, that the facts are simple, that donald trump is telling the truth and when you tell the truth you don't need a lot of time to prepare. so you have these conflicting

steve schwartzman going to south the areva with, him sitting next to him at his big birthday party. before donald trump was president, these people didn't even take his call. joyce, what does this mean for trump legally. why would tish james file this now? >> so, this lawsuit, which has been in the works for a while, is about the attorney general in new york's ability to ensure that corporations don't engage and fraudulent practices. it is part of new york's blue sky package of laws that are designed to guarantee corporate integrity. >> and the allegations that you and tim have been discussing art that trump, his two oldest sons, the trump organization, used these mechanisms of cheating on their financial statements to achieve some financial benefits in insurance, in other loan sorts of areas, and that all of this is in violation of new york law. if she is successful, and this is of course a civil case, she is suing him civilly, she'd need only prefer claims by the preponderance of the evidence, not beyond a reasonable doubt, then it is in essence a corporate death penalty for trump

>> complex areva motions there. thank you so much for bringing us that interview. to bring back in nbc news correspondent and host of the nbc -- you had quite the viewpoint from where you were as well. what are some of your takeaways here, and also what were some of the things that people were telling you as well? >> lindsey, i think one of the big takeaways, and she mentioned this, the idea of this generation coming together in a single moment. so you have elders who were here during the first march, and you have young people who i've been talking to, saying, you know what? the generation before us fought so hard, and even though some of our rights are eroding and being attacked, we want to stand up and make sure that our generation's voice is heard. but also, one young lady said, young people listen to young people. and so all i can get up and be on the stands and listened to and andrew young talk about his struggle and working side by side with dr. king, they don't necessarily -- that might not resonate with some other people. but you hear a young person say we