let's discuss this further now with areva martin, an attorney and legal affairs commentator. areva, it's good to have you with us. >> i rosemary. >> so, in a historic, move former u.s. president donald trump has been indicted for a fourth time. trump, rudy giuliani, mark meadows, and 16 others are criminally charged on 41 counts in connection with efforts to overturn trump's defeat in the georgia state election. now, trump is charged with a counts, including violating the states racketeering act. what stands out to you and what is trump's legal jeopardy here? >> well, rosemary, this is a historic day and not in a positive way. we have never seen the country seen -- to be both white and that is in addition to a civil lawsuits that have been filed against him as well. i think the most shocking is the expansive nature, we knew it was coming, we did know how many individuals would be indicted, we didn't know the expansive nature of the charges in the indictment, and we see now, not only donald trump, but to some of his most trusted attorneys, his campaign staff, individuals from t