. >> tucker: i would argonaut everybody loses. it lets off the hook a ruined class.low americans. they're in charge but they don't have to feel guilty about it. the middle class deserves it. >> i find it healthy to think about the real problems and who might benefit from a solution, a very real problem right now, if you're a black business owner, it's hard to get access to capital. whose fault is that? notice the distraction, this white privilege discourse infects in politics. puts the focus on people that are suffering from a simpler problem and at the end of the day, nobody benefits. the people that benefit are the people at the top of the system. if you want to help the broad middle, you don't talk like that. you solve the problems of everyone. >> tucker: and hides all kind of bad effects that their policies have brought to our middle and working classes. so if you're working class black person, immigration doesn't help you in any sense. it helps rich people, a ruling class makes a conversation about race. so you have to be in favor of this because there's solidar