the mega panel today, with us, ari berman, toure, and krystal ball. hi, guys. it's very interesting -- you don't know this at home, but just seconds ago, there was a man attempting to adjust wiring on the back of krystal ball's head, because she can't hear anything, but she's going to pretend and play along like a good professional would. >> well, we can hear you. >> i can hear. i can hear. >> we'll talk later. how do you interpret, toure, the energy wave that we are witnessing? not just the wave that you have just recently made with the publication of your book and the pushing of a conversation to a different place, the response that we're seeing to get money out, the expansion of what was this small group of wall street that was largely ignored that is now transitions through its own unrelenting nature into this -- what are we -- what is going on here, man? >> people are angry. and i think that when you say that we're not clear on exactly what they want and they're not saying, this is a pinpoint goal of ours -- >> i'm saying i hope they want to help me get mo

sam seeder, joy lynn web wesh and the nation's ari berman all here with us. for specific issue with this, a very specific plan, which i want to get to in a second. i have an issue with a broader series of plans, the president's plan, the republicans' plans, congressman meeks' plan. hold on a second, you're being paid off by the banks and then you're telling me you want to do some sort of cover-up scheme, whether it's a stimulus spending or a tax dodge, whatever it is, as opposed to dealing with the underlying problem. am i too critical in that? i know i'm critical, but am i missing something? >> i think you're making a good point, which is we have these huge problems right now, dylan, and washington is basically playing small ball. even the president's plan, the most optimistic scenario says it's going to create 2 million jobs. we have a much greater need for jobs and we have to think about not those jobs just temporarily, but in the long-term, what's the future going to look like? >> what does america do and what is america's principle as expressed through t