and here in new york, we are joined by ari berman, a senior writer at mother jones, a reporting fellow at the nation institute, and author of "give us the ballot: the modern struggle for voting rights in america." are you -- ari, you attended the supreme court oral arguments yesterday. set the scene for us. were you surprised by the tenor of the question? >> i did. this is one of the most important cases for democracy and decades, amy, because the senses determined so many things in our society, how $880 billion in federal funding is allocated, how voting districts are drawn, how many houses, electoral college votes. there is nothing we do that is more important democracy than the senses. this one question about u.s. citizenship has a possibility to derail the entire census. one of the most imimportant and longest coconstitutional responsibilities our government has could now be deraililed and tuturn into a popolitical weapoy the e trump administration to target immigrants anand places were l lots of immigrants live. i was hoping i would hear these big picture debates in the supreme co