i agree with ari fleischer. the problem for trump is the economy is doing pretty well. for him to be in the low 40s is troublesome. two, in 2018, we heard the same thing we just heard: well the polls are not accurate. they said republicans would win by a wide percentage point. the republicans lost by 9. >> laura: the economy is good as it is now? >> no. >> laura: absolutely not. >> yet obama's numbers were never as weak. >> laura: did obama have a press corp that piled on him every day? >> if he loses, the president will say it's the press's fault. >> laura: yes? >> they were at the same point in the cycle. >> laura: the same approval. >> correct. >> laura: i am not saying that trump's numbers should not be higher. i agree with ari fleischer. you want the numbers to be higher when means you just have to keep talking about the results. if you do x, vote for bernie sanders or elizabeth warren or joe, this is how much you will have to fork over. this is how much of your money will go to their pet projects. we know

liberty. ♪ >> melissa: we want to give our thanks to ari fleischer. eek so far, and we're not there yet. >> jessica: i can't believe it's only wednesday. >> ari: but it's been a great week for the yankees so things are good. >> melissa: let's and on that note. we are back here at noon eastern tomorrow, but for now, i want to send it over to "outnumbered overtime" and harris faulkner. >> harris: and we are watching for the next life event right now, waiting the president's expected remarks as he departs the white house for the g20 summit in osaka, japan. this is "outnumbered overtime." and harris faulkner. a busy day of news already with the president, hitting back at news that former special counsel robert mueller has agreed to testify next month in what could be the largest congressional hearing in decades. the president doubled down today on claims that the mueller investigation was rigged during an interview with maria bartiromo. watch. >> it never ends. we had no obstruction, we had no collusion, we had a report that was considering that 18 people

here with reaction, karl rove and ari fleischer are with us. know, karl, you would think that he would've learned the plagiarism thing. the connect speech is funny when you play it side-by-side, and yet he did it again with the climate change, i don't know if that is worth or the fact that he felt the need to capitulate to ocasio-cortez. >> i suspect that having been utterly humiliated in 1988 and his presidential hoax -- and it took him 20 years to climb back onto the national stage. i suspect that he learned the plagiarism issue. there is something even deeper here. his campaign staff obviously did not. nobody paid attention to, are we cribbing stuff out of other people's documents without giving it attribution. maybe some of the staffers were not around, what is it? nearly 30 years later? maybe they were not around. but it says something about his campaign staff that they did not have the institutional knowledge to say, we better be very careful about this, because we have had this problem blow up in her face before. what does it take to tak

ari fleischer, thank you very much.g you. >> thank you. >> neil: the protests against the president not withstanding, it's pretty tame compared to what some democratic hopefuls are dealing with from fellow democrats after this. orlando isn't just the theme park capital of the world, it also has the highest growth in manufacturing jobs in the us. it's a competition for the talent. employees need more than just a paycheck. you definitely want to take advantage of all the benefits you can get. 2/3 of employees said that the workplace is an important source for personal savings and protection solutions. the workplace should be a source of financial security. keeping your people happy is what keeps your people. that's financial wellness. put your employees on a path to financial wellness with prudential. featuring three new dishes that are planked-to-perfection. feast on new cedar-plank lobster & shrimp. or new colossal shrimp & salmon with a citrusy drizzle. tender, smoky, and together on one plank... ...but not for long- s

ari fleischer and karl rove. gets first crack at it. >> the issue with aoc is she represents the future, she represents the energy of the democratic party. you can just feel it in the grassroots. the problem the democrats have and actually this will be interesting to see how it plays out. there's a large number of democrats who want to beat trump. it doesn't matter who they nominate so long as that person can beat trump. there's another part wants to go for the farthest left position they can possibly elect. those two groups are clearly intentioned and it will play itself out through the entire primary campaign. having 4 million twitter followers, that's another reason why people do want her endorsement. i usuallyly don't think endorsements matter but i think hers, particularly closer to iowa and new hampshire, well mannered son. >> sean: karl, i've known you a lot of years. if you go this hard core left, new green deal and demand impeachment after four investigations, and you got hundreds of people and 150,000 p

illegitimate.e what we will hre -- i work -- i will refer to what a former white house press secretary, ari fleischeraid, you have a left-wing mayorpp asing the left-wing base in the city of london, but it will not damage the relationship that our two countries even if u have a mayor who pops off his mouth. jane: there is talk of the special relationship. when you talk to president trump, what do you think he values most about the relationship with the u.k.? >> i think it is fairly easy, we have common heritage. we have a common history in so many cases. we are so closely aligned as allies, and itas said earlier, our men and women in arms have served side-by-side through conflicts going back a century or more. so we do have that long relationip. but just because we are friends, and i would say closer to family, doesn't mean you dont disagree sometimes and you have to have difficult conversations. it doesn't change the relationship, it just means were you are being honest with each other. jane: in other news, the mexican foreign nister has warned that proposed u.s. tariffs would cause economic hardshi

ari fleischer is the former press secretary to george w. bush.nued question whether or not the democratic party is divided. nancy pelosi insists no. what are we seeing? >> of course they are divided. divisions can be healthy in politics. it is how you resolve disputes and the party formulates what it wants to do going forward. both parties go through it. presidential elections put it to the test. the first phase is the drop-out phase. after first debate in june democrats will start to drop out. the ones who can't make it. 24, it won't say at 24. over the summer look for the drop-out phase to take place. the second phase this fall will be the slug it out phase where the remaining candidates, they don't want to drop out so they'll start to really go after each other hard to make the case there is something wrong with the other guy or girl. the third phase will probably take place early next year into the spring of next year, that is going to be the one-on-one phase. i think it will likely be sanders versus biden and that's when the race really heat

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. >> ari fleischer says socialist policies sanders is pushing for have never worked anywhere. >> they pulled the chops on dealing it. he set ultimately in that speech that socialism is for compassion, justice and love. i don't know what nation on earth socialism ever achieved those objections, freedom achieve those objectives, socialism has brought tens of millions around the world oppression, injustice and scarcity. this is what socialism delivers. we started with the polls. one reason the president has difficulty in the polls is hasn't had a chance to make his case against his opponent, unknown generic democrat who will always poll better than a real democrat until you can bring something firm against him. >> the latest poll shows bernie sanders with a 9 point lead over donald trump in a hypothetical matchup. won't be hypothetical for one. >> the first lady makes a rare statement to reporters in the oval office during a briefing on the opioid crisis. >> to open up and ask for help. i always say love yourself more than you love trump and i will continue to boost those who have awaren

let's bring in former white house press secretary and fox news contributor ari fleischer. being with us today. as we were just saying, what a difference from wednesday, not many mentions of president trump wednesday, 52 times i called him out attacking him. joe biden and bernie sanders on tax cuts and immigration. does that bode well for the democrats in 2020 and what does this tell us about their strategies? >> it does bode well. it's mandatory. when you are running to change a party in the white house, you run against a person in the white house. republicans did that in 2016, the many statements that were anti-donald trump which implied anti-hillary clinton and now it's the democrats turn. but here's the thing, you don't differentiate yourself as a candidate by going after donald trump. it's too obvious. you differentiate yourself by doing what kamala harris did by going after the front runner joe biden. so it is mandatory to go after the opposition, but that's not how you win. you win by differentiating yourself from the front running democrat. >> benjamin: many people

everybody raising their hands, as ari fleischer pointed out in a tweak of the decriminalization of people crossing the border illegally, providing a legal driver's license, providig them with health care. richard, watch the numbers of people accelerate as they look at this attractive enticement to come to the united states of america. the border is open, you aren't going to be held in any facility when you cross over. come on in and offer everything from college and a license to free health care. is that the message of the democratic party? >> that's not the message of the democratic party. allow me to push back on this notion of charter schools. what you see across the country if you look at any pull the parents of african-american parents, they are not having a debate or yelling about school choice. they want smaller class size, updated booths, schools that aren't falling apart. they want more funding in their community for high quality public schools but what you see both thursday and wednesday, a clear contrast between democrats and republicans. we are not saying we want open borders,

you saw the president tweet right away about everybody raising their hand, our friend ari fleischer saidng the border illegally is no longer illegal as several of these advocate, why do we make people who get off airplanes go through customs? if it's fair to let people in without going through customs on the southern border, everyone should be allowed in. isn't this issue going to really frame the 2020 race when it comes to the trump campaign? >> right now, dallas is showing that 23% of the public generally saying immigration is their most important issue, that's the highest it's been in some time. there is great focus on the public in this issue and i'm amazed -- i was amazed last night and the night before the way the democratic party as your tape recording of barack obama shows, has zoomed to a new position to the left on this issue. i think we are taking a huge gamble by devoting so much of their air time and energy, the compassion to a group of people who go undoubtedly some pathetic are na lot of voters who have the first claim public resources, a huge political gamble. >> especial

. >> cnn calls itself the most trusted name in news, ari fleischer tweeted this the other day, 25% of the house democrats are in favor of impeachment. he said i watched it, i would say the commentators on that network, 80% of them. this goes to the notion that people are being lied to by whether you're on television or working at a newspaper. >> the difference between -- so when you go to cable news, for example, and you're watching people debate. there's that. but then the nightly news which for generations people believed was totally straight down the center and has been revealed to have bias the way any human being is engaged is going to have an opinion one way or the other. at the networks, they pretended it wasn't the case. viewers have woken up to that. >> we don't have the time, i want to think of any news articles that have been wrong about nancy pelosi. we don't have time. back in a moment. >> the ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can't do anything about that. now that you know the

we have ari fleischer here and elizabeth mcdonald here with us. lizzy, gets your take on what the judge said. in a weird way, this could wheel around to the president's benefit. what do you think? >> yeah, i think what the judge said is spot on. what is interesting, so many countries ask the citizenship question. australia has it. germany and indonesia. we've had a citizenship question dating back to the 1820s. here's the other interesting thing. he could delay it. the president could conceivably delay it to december of 2020. that would mess up other states as they try to do redistricting. you can imagine court challenges there. the census bureau has said they don't need the question. they ask accurately count citizens via machines and administrative records already in the system. stanford university and harvard has looked at that. so that's -- seems like a dust-up over something that the census bureau may be able to handle. >> neil: why wasn't there a fuss made when the question was taken off in the first place? i grant you a long time ago. but i

usually what happens is, well, ari fleischer at the time said, i don't know who that is, and george w. bush didn't say anything. all he's doing, all the president is doing is evaluating this mayor. >> this is classic trump, right? he can't stay silent if he feels that he's being challenged by someone. so we've seen him do this before. and he decided to do this again with the mayor of london. that means that i wanted to go back to something that jeff said about farage. i think that it's very true to form that trump inserts himself at every level possible. and maybe this wasn't as much as he could have, but he has a lot of similarities with fa raj. i mean, bannon is close friends sk and allies with farage and the nationalist viewpoints that they have. >> why even evaluate the mayor of london, though? he's punching down. >> it doesn't matter who insults donald trump. he's coming back at him. that's true on the domestic stage, on the international stage. what we're going to remember about the last couple of weeks here is that trump had a great trip to japan. he's now having a really good

. >> sandra: ari fleischer was strong on special report last night and had a similar message on socialism>> he said elsewhere in that speech that socialism is for compassion, justice and love. i don't know a nation on earth socialism has achieved those objectives. what socialism has brought to tens of millions is oppression, injustice and scarcity. that's what socialism delivers. >> when bernie sanders says those things he sounds like a naive college student. it looks good and fair on paper. maybe he spent his honeymoon in t ussr. maybe he believes it so much he is blinded to history and current day events. even though he won't say venezuela he doesn't say negative about venezuela either. >> eric: he defended this on cnn last night. let's listen to what he had to say. >> there is a trade-off. at the end of the day i think most people will believe they will be better off when their kids have educational opportunities without out-of-pocket expenses. when they have healthcare as a human right. when they have affordable housing. when they have decent retirement, security. i think most america

ari fleischer former press secretary to the president was watching the last two nights. he has had great tweets. last night he tweeted this out: the democratic plan for the future, number one decriminalize illegal border crossings. number two, provide illegals with drivers licenses. number three, fro vide illegals with free healthcare. number four watch illegal immigration soar. five, create a path to citizenship, and six win elections. and ari says that is what this is about. brian: this is what republicans have to do. this is the issues that do matter no, matter who you talk to outside or probably whether you are watching in wisconsin or texas. healthcare matters to all of you. immigration matters to all of you. and students loan debts matters to most of you. these issues got to be solved and addressed. but you just saw how 10, maybe 20 people would address it. is that good enough? i know one thing. it's not practical under our current budget. so, it's up to republican and the president to make it clear what he would do. steve: so, today we're the post game show for la

. >> ari fleischer had an interesting tweet overnight, he said if crossing the border illegally is nolegal why wouldn't people come from other countries to america make them go through customs. we have an open border in the south no longer illegal according to all democrats on that stage. we have a border at all. we have been saying for a long time do the democrats want open borders? no, no, no, no. and then on that age against the law. jedediah: without pause. oh yeah, me, me, me. it's amazing. pete: someone better to say it. ben schap sharp nailed it on the radical shift on the left. >> every single candidate on stage suggested american taxpayers shoot foot the bill for healthcare of illegal immigrants. combine two factors open borders and healthcare for everybody what that means is we will get to pay federal everybody's healthcare everybody who gets in. this is radical, radical stuff. the 2020 election is going to be about whom are we talking about? are we talking about trump center of attention or is it what about kooky democrat is out there proclaiming to the skies that they're g