ari fleischer. thank you, nice to see you. back to the supreme court ruling blocking the trump administration for more than half a million young immigrants. we will bring in bret baier. good afternoon to you. how do you score politically? in this election year? >> politically i think this issue was going to be dealt with politically by legislation eventually and he wanted, the president wanted to deal with it legally. the trump administration is losing on this effort, but it doesn't mean that this is a huge win for the opposition against president trump. i think both sides wanted to get to the end of the issue and figure out to the solution. the problem was that legislation wasn't appearing on capitol hill. >> bill: the thing he said, not whether the department of homeland security canvas and daka, the dispute is primarily about the procedure of the agency followed in doing so. you can go back and take another crack at this thing, could you not? >> 100% and i think they will. the end result here is a negotiating solution betwe

ari fleischer, your take on it? ome to 2020 where the same action is seen diametrically opposite by different types of people. i suppose on the one hand you can dismiss it as a photo op if that's what you'd like. on the other hand, there are two other facts and i think this is what president trump was trying to show. that church was burned, set on fire the night before. imagine that, burning the president's church, does that accomplish? secondly, i think with the president was symbolically showing was that too many americans have been locked out of going to their churches and he was going to walk the church even though he's not a religious man which makes us even more surprising coming from him but i think he was showing that we are all tired of this, people have a right to go to church, what does it mean when we are not allowed to go to church or synagogue or religious funerals but you are allowed to go out in the streets and looting and engage in violence in the middle of a pandemic so i think that also was on the

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let's get reaction now from ari fleischer. fox news contributor. ari? are you there?i am here. >> dana: hi. i'm sorry. i can't see you. something -- something seems -- >> i'm here. >> dana: i can hear you. tell me what you think about the timing of this? i know you and i probably have a similar thought about a book like this or any book coming out while a president is still in office. your thoughts. >> dana, there's a long history and a good history of people writing books about the presidents for whom they worked. it serves history for insider to tell it. there's two sides. the henry kissinger side, the robert gates side. people of stature that have written books after the president they served left office. and then the more sorted side like george stephanopoulos wrote. john is pursuing the wrong path in my opinion. his book would be much better if it came out whenever president trump was outs of office. it would be accepted as a political polemic but as a real insider's reflection. >> dana: yep, that's interesting. when scott mcclelland's book came out, our biggest

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. >> melissa: ari fleischer is former press secretary for president george w. and he is a fox news contributor. what do you think of what you just heard there? >> [laughs] i love what he just said, that black people laugh at white people who do this. boy, did he just get it right. you know, melissa, two things are true the same time here. one, if you really want to defend defund the police, stop breaking the law. the best way to defund the police is you don't loot. if you don't riot, if you don't pull statues down. no murder, milt donegan armed robbery, no rape. if you get rid of the police, there's more crime. the ideas that those who want to defund the police are making work for the police. also, i think it's true at the same time -- and i've heard it from a number of my friends -- if you are black in america today, you have more to fear from the police than you do if you're white. i think people need to listen to that, as well. that is why the importance of police reform still is ongoing, and should be followed through and is important to all of us, because

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let's bring in fox news contributor and former white house press secretary ari fleischer. rse he worked for george w. bush. ari, i made the point that there seemed to be no historian in the mob. i don't even know if they realize what they -- i don't know if they realize what they are doing. what they actually want. >> mobs aren't typically known for their thoughtfulness, are they? it's just rage. and as we saw in wisconsin, the rage now has been taken out on prounion people who wanted to abolish slavery. they are not safe, their statues. look, this is lawlessness. and we're not having a summer of love, dana. we are having a summer of violence. and people need to wake up and realize how threatening and how dangerous this is when the mob can do what it wants to do with impunity. i hope people stand up to them. >> dana: we have been seeing what president trump has said. he has been pretty vocal about it. what about the democrats? what about a moment for joe biden to maybe stand up and show what he stands for in all of this. >> absolutely. where is joe biden? where are the gove

joining is now the, fox news contributor mike huckabee, ari fleischer. of this is happening, you know, unfolding before the eyes of americans. governor, we have nearly 900 offices, the president keeps asking all of these liberal mayors and governors, can i help you come i want to help you, we are here to help you restore law and order, safety and security. the president can go in. very rightly i think hesitant not to -- at the ready of one there willing to do it, summer of love, this is not turning out well in seattle tonight. >> no, it isn't. and i think people need to understand that the contrast between what president trump offers in reelection and joe biden -- we make jokes about it because there are certain things about joe biden and his gaffes that are funny but there's nothing funny but the fundamental 180-degree difference between these two people when it comes to the policies that will shape america. that's what i hope people will focus on. not the personalities.es not the gaffes, not the things that people say, but a weo fundamental difference

bush and fox news contributor, ari fleischer. his is a seminal moment, potentially, for the president. we always look for those tipping points, don't wait? historically, where it seems like things are taking up or down. as we look at the situation where millions of protesters are still coming together in the streets, and you still have division in this country, and we still haven't heard a national address from this president on these issues, how do you think he's doing in terms of just this listening campaign right now? >> well, i think he is doing moderately on the listening campaign. i think the president is a tough guy. he is for "law & order." i said before, at a time like this, you need both law and order but you also need the soothing, healing words of the president to help the nation come together. i'd like to see more for that. this is a time for both, coming from the president. harris, it's also a time for leadership. this is why we have presidents, to seize the initiative and to lead the nation to a better place. that c

to which ari fleischer tweeted this "the difference between the tenor of the questions with biden compared to trump is striking. after eight years of going easy on obama, for years to being brutal to trump. the mainstream media seems happy to go easy again." was that your observation? >> i think it was a gentle session with biden not really being tested. he wasn't asked anything about the revelations about michael flynn and the discussion of the logan act or anything of that nature. one thing i thought was interesting was biden himself injected the issue of cognitive abilities and raise the issue of president trump's cognitive abilities. we know that's been a line of attack for the trump campaign. it was surprising that biden is now actively picking up on this and putting it into his messaging. >> bill: nice to see you. more on this and a couple of minutes. senate republican say a new bill is on the way. republican senator david perdue out of georgia will tell us what might be a net. he is coming up live next. with my hepatitis c... ...i felt i couldn't be at my... ...best for my family. i

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ari fleischer. watch the spirit and climate change. >> yeah, i was stunned actually. i wouldn't have suspected the defense secretary to break with the president like this. i don't really understand what the later moved to bring back those troops means. but he read from a statement. this was knocked off the cuff. he is breaking with the president on the insurrection act. he also has clearly had second thoughts about a company name the president. he did refer to it as a photo op. it's hard to imagine how he could stay on in the cabinet after this. but, we will see. the white house was very careful today. they did not say the president had faith in him, just that we have to wait to see what happens. >> bret: ari, you have been through administrations whether a turnover of different officials. by now you have a former defense secretary. with this scathing commentary in the atlantic. saint donald trump is the first president of my lifetime who does not try to unite the american people, does not even pret

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i will read what ari fleischer says.ary reprieve, the only meaningful measure's company competence of immigration reform enacted by congress and signed into law by the president. both sides will need a compromise. what further reaction do you have for this decision? >> anybody talking at this point in time of a comprehensive a comprehensive immigration bill, it took reagan five years to get his immigration bill. finally in 1986 he said it, and just done. you had a bipartisan bill which is nowhere near as dramatic as what you're trying to do today. you can make the young people legal but you can't make the parents legal without doing comprehensive bills. this is the one thing everyone could probably agree upon so you are not going to give it up that early on. i think realistically you have a long battle ahead before you have immigration reform and i totally agree that we need it desperately but it's not going to happen in a short hall or even the first part of the next issue. >> ed: we also have judge napolitano here. we