as a reader i had to wonder are you taking a arianna huffington as a surrogate mother?e wanted to play that it was just a really weird relationship woven into all this other stuff that's going on. >> is very dramatic and very strange and an awful thing that happened at the worst possible time in the skies life and he has no allies left in his board is turning on him. i think eventually he is ousted from the company that he founded and it was a big public war. i don't think he would have stepped down voluntarily if it weren't for his mother passing and him being this really gnarly headspace. >> there's this one scene where all the stuff is coming up in the news and he's writing about lying on the floor writhing around for an extended period of time and the executive team is all sitting there watching like oh my god this is their ceo. >> that's right. they were beholden to this guy throwing himself on the floor saying i'm a terrible person, and i'm a terrible person. someone said to him you are not at terrible person, you just do terrible things. i don't know exact to wha

as a reader i had to wonder are you taking a arianna huffington as a surrogate mother?e wanted to play that it was just a really weird relationship woven into all this other stuff that's going on. >> is very dramatic and very strange and an awful thing that happened at the worst possible time in the skies life and he has no allies left in his board is turning on him. i think eventually he is ousted from the company that he founded and it was a big public war. i don't think he would have stepped down voluntarily if it weren't for his mother passing and him being this really gnarly headspace. >> there's this one scene where all the stuff is coming up in the news and he's writing about lying on the floor writhing around for an extended period of time and the executive team is all sitting there watching like oh my god this is their ceo. >> that's right. they were beholden to this guy throwing himself on the floor saying i'm a terrible person, and i'm a terrible person. someone said to him you are not at terrible person, you just do terrible things. i don't know exact to wha

arianna huffington joins us.. >> i love these technologies that nudge you to do the right thing. tell us about boundless and what it is. >> it's a neuroscience based ai company that actually uses all the data feedback loops to feed you better and better microsteps to improve your behavior the whole point is that the way we thought we could change behavior is through new year resolutions and that doesn't work thrive has come up with what we call microsteps, too small too fail the title of your next book. >> give me an example. >> one example is how you start your day take 60 seconds before you go to your phone 60 seconds, joe. are you listening? >> i don't have time i have to do it right away. >> 60 seconds. if you don't have one minute, you don't have a life. to set your intention for the day. to remember what you're grateful for, to do something that gets your mind in the right frame, to start the day. >> are you telling me to do this or is boundless going to tell me to do this >> we're going to feed you that mi