arianna huffington has given lots of thought to all this. founder of the huffington post and now runs thrive global, a company dedicated to helping people improve their physical and mentalarianna. >> thank you, fareed. >> arianna, when you look at this covid crisis, you say and you have written that this is part of something much bigger that has been happening before in the sense that we don't want to go back to a normal, because that normal itself was not very good. explain what you mean. >> so, fareed, we entered this pandemic with major and growing challenges. the first was the increasing chronic diseases like obesity, diabetes, heart disease. the second was the mental health crisis. you know, depression, even before the pandemic was the number one cause of disability globally. the third was something that we talked about endlessly at conferences but didn't do much about, the growing inequalities. and the fourth, of course, was climate change. now, all these challenges have their own curves. and one we're talking about flattening the coro

arianna huffington has given lots of thought to all this.he founder of the huffington post and now runs thrive global, a company dedicated to helping people improve their physical and mental well-being. welcome, arianna. >> thank you, fareed. >> arianna, when you look at this covid crisis, you say and you have written that this is part of something much bigger that has been happening before in the sense that we don't want to go back to a normal, because that normal itself was not very good. explain what you mean. >> so, fareed, we entered this pandemic with major and growing challenges. the first was the increasing chronic diseases like obesity, diabetes, heart disease. the second was the mental health crisis. you know, depression, even before the pandemic was the number one cause of disability globally. the third was something that we talked about endlessly at conferences but didn't do much about, the growing inequalities. and the fourth, of course, was climate change. now, all these challenges have their own curves. and one we're talking a

. >> arianna huffington, always a pleasure. >> thank you so much, fareed. >>> i want to conclude thecial by giving you my take. drawing on my "washington post" column this week. despite the fact that in america at least the curve has not really flattened, we're all thinking about when and how things will get back to normal. but we should use this crisis as a way to rethink what normal means. the more closely you look, the more it appears that we human beings have been living in a way that makes future pandemics likely even inevitable. a disease oncologist, renowned virus hunter. he and his team venture bad caves in full protective gear to get the animal's saliva or blood to determine origins of a virus. in a conversation with me he was clear. we're doing things every day that make pandemics more likely. we need to understand this. it is not just nature. it is what we are doing to nature. remember, most viruses come from animals. the cdc estimates that three quarters of new human diseases originate in animals. the coronavirus might simply have come from one of those wildlife markets i