. >> rose: bottom line, are you optimist about arica? >> m an amecan. but i think we've got lots of oblems. i thout you were going to raise a question at t end here out trust and confidence in government generly which.... >> rose: well, that's where i'm gog. >> i tnkhat has been a disturbing eleme for me for a long time. i worried about it and not much is done. w can we sit here knowing onc after thinauguration, almost a year aft the election and half of the vernment positions washington under deput secretary sistant secretaries arsitting there vacan and we do hit in the treasury department in e midst of e greatest cris anybody's been into. >> rose: and the pentagon. >> and depending un it andho are those leaders depending on? they don't have responsible ofcials in officeeady to share the loa and pele who have bee vetted. buthat's a... it's... up and down the le inivil service it just doesn't have the attraction that it wasn'thad d the government doesn make 's easy. it's hard too to work for government you think at's an easy thing to do and you're attra

that's arica's gift to t worl but right up there are the tional parks. >> rose: as ias lookg at at, ioday youhile we were watching it together, where do you gethese people? and th you listen to them and you said t me as weere coming out of that tt someoneaid "this has to be sipted." you don't givehem thequestion you want to crte the most real remembrae and observaon you can. >> and then, as you d, listen. just listen. and then follow that line of thought. and so you list to somebody like clay jhg kinson or shelton johnson the ranger from semite and somebody saido me th was an actor, a i said no and he doesn't see the thing that w made up on e spot. it's all extemporanes. that's, of course, theay it has to be. >> rose: it took youeven ars? >> we starte the ideaten years ago, triedto fire out the form, wrestle the colicated russian novel of intercnection all the plots tether and we've be shooting forsix. and it'seen the most... i mean we've... we'vead to shoo from the gates of the arctic in northern alaska the dry tortugas to hawaii volcanos to acadia and allhe places in between. that took