you look at other cases, ariel castro, remember that case, horrible case.s looking at sentence to life in prison, he committed suicide by hanging himself. jaycee lee dugard, those people also convicted and tensed to life in prisonment. the court takes these charges very, very seriously, as they should. >> so the biological mother in this case, who we saw that 13-year-old boy hugging, tearfully, she apparently had an immigration situation. so, she contacted child welfare -- >> way back when. >> when he disappeared four years ago but did not contact the police. but my question is what is the obligation of child welfare to contact police? >> knowing that a child had gone missing and know that he was not, you know, found month after month after month, they really did have an obligation. it's not a criminal violation, but it could be a civil charge down the road. but i think the most important thing, gretchen, of course the father around the stepmother going through the legal process. yeah child welfare gets this call and the boy is gone and they don't do anythi