forces back again after president aristide left.nd then we had a history of nonfunctioning governments or governments functioning to benefit themselves rather than the people and that takes a long time to recover. >> greta: do you assess that haiti can rebuild itself? and not only rebuild itself from the earthquake, but rebuild itself from decades of squalor and lack of infrastructure? do you have optimism? >> i think it can occur, a lot of progress, and help from groups and governmental, forces still there. and potential is there. look at the other side of the isle, the dominican republic. cruiseships going there, but who heard of cruiseships going to haiti. it has to be developed and fostered and work for the future. >> the real problem, a lack of durable institutions in the country and part that have has to do with interference from the outside over the years, and also, the functions of the state, and functions that would ordinarily be provided by public agencies and even by private hatian agencies being supplanted by organizatio