. >> i'm from arkansas state university. first of, thank you for that amazing speech. i am catholic. i have been trying to do research on the only catholic synar. my question is why did he write of carrollton. i've been told two different stories. one, that he wrote it to prove that he was worthy of the other founders trust. and if the british found that address you doing to take it. the second story is that he wrote that to distinguish himself from his father. >> you know, i am not sure. but, there is a really good book put out on charleston carroll. i cannot remember the exact title. come see me. i will send you the title. it came out like one year ago. it is a great book. he plays a big part in national treasure, the movie. a very false part, by the way. with them saying he was the only catholic synar and he was involved in a masonic lodge. -- signer and he was involved in a masonic plot. does not quite add up. >> i go to ucla. regarding your views on the state's involvement in religion, how do recognize -- had to reconcile that view of the 14th amendment? >> all th