arlen specter launched an investigation into the scandal. ly bad news for the nfl. but according to specter, a mutual friend of his and patriots owner robert kraft third quarter he could make the investigation disappear. specter's memoir documented a discussion with that friend. quote, on the signal stealing, a mutual friend had told me that if i laid off the patriots, there would be a lot of money in palm beach. i replied i couldn't care less. that one line always nagged at investigative report don jr. who needed to know who was the friend who offered a bribe to a sitting senator. years later he believes he has an answer -- donald j. trump. shanen telling espn his dad was upset, quote, he told me about the call in the wake of the conversation and his anger about it. my father was upset when such overtures would happen because he felt as if it were tantamount to a bribe situation but the suspect on this case law says it isn't. he would tell me when these thee things when they occur. we were very close. we reached out to both trump and kraft f

you know it's funny, there's a quote in the book from arlen specter who was the late republican senatorrom pennsylvania, and after purdue does this deal in 2007, in which basically they kind of go over the heads of the federal prosecutors to the department of justice in washington and get the idea of felony charges dropped against these three purdue executives, so it end up being a find a misdemeanor charge for those executives. arlen spector has this amazing line where he says, i worry if you just fine a company that makes like millions of dollars a year doing something, you are just fining b them, i worry it won't change their behavior that if you don't introduceon jail time you won't change behavior and what arlen specter said back in 2007 was i worry a fine for a corporation is just i an expensive license for criminal misconduct here it's funny because when i started writing about purdue in 2017, their whole wrath was then they werer like we have a few bad apples, little unpleasantness in 2007, that was the extent and we really got religion after that with amazing compliance, you kn

it's funny there is a quote in the book from arlen specter after he does this deal in 2007 in which basically they kind of go over the heads of the federal prosecutors to the department of justice in washington and get the idea felony charges dropped against these executives so it ends up being a fine and misdemeanor charges, arlen specter has this line where he says i worry that finding a company that makes billions of dollars a year doing something, if you are just fining them, i worry that it isn't going to change their behavior if you don't introduce jail time you're not going to change behavior and what he said back in 2007 is i worry that a fine for a corporation is an expensive license for criminal misconduct and it's funny because when i started writing about perdue in 2017, their whole thing was we had a few bad apples that was the extent. we had amazing compliance and a corporate integrity agreement and of course i know from my reporting they didn't really change their behavior at all. there is a quote i have in the book from somebody that witnessed the cfo of the company we've had

this is all according to arlen specter's son. >> the "washington post" has corroborated some of it.o believable. obviously, we don't know for a fact, but you have some credible sources saying that donald trump was trying to bribe a u.s. senator at the time. of course specter wanted to have a congressional investigation of spy gate and of course the nfl doesn't want that and robert kraft didn't want it. so you have these allegations that trump was trying to bribe specter with campaign contributions. apparently there was a meeting down at mar-a-lago between the then senator and of course donald trump, then a good ten years from becoming president of the united states. trump has always been involved with sports. he wanted to be an nfl owner. as i said, i think it resonates. i think this is creating headlines because it is so darn believable. >> it sure is. >>> in our world lead, no help from the russians. for the second time in two days an international flight to moscow had to be cancelled because russia would not let the airline change its route in order to avoid flying over belarus.

i should say, while arlen specter is a partisan here as far as being a philadelphia eagles fan, yo willlished has tom brady on the cover so i'm a little partisan here too but i will say that this is just a great story but just continues to go -- that will not go away and i think that robert kraft will certainly do anything he can to sort of reflect well on his team but it's also unclear at this point whether there's a direct line to anything he could do for donald trump or donald trump could do for arlen specter that would have brought some kind of satisfactory resolution to robert kraft's interest here. >> it is amazing. whenever there's a donald trump angle, there's often a bag of money and something dirty. seth, mark, thank you both very much for spending some time with us on this story. >>> when we return, we are getting closer to that senate vote on whether to move ahead to establish a commission to investigate the capitol riot or not, a vote where republicans will put their allegiance to donald trump's big lie ahead of the country or not. reaction from a top senator next. try or n

arlen specter says you know i'm worried that you are finding a company that makes billions of dollars a year doing something if you are just finding them i worry it's not going to change their behavior and if you don't jail time you're going to reduce -- and what he said was in 2007 i worry a fine for corporation is just an expensive license for criminal misconduct as funny because when i started writing about perdue in 2017 their whole rap they rely cocoa we had a few bad apples and that was the extent of it. we had amazing compliance and corporate integrity treatments and i know now from our reporting it was all who he. they didn't change their behavior all. it doubled down on this page renders a quote i have in the book of somebody who witnessed the cfo of the company speaking about that $600 million fine. we have had that in the bank for years. this was not a deterrent. as i had mentioned you get the second guilty plea to federal crimes a few months ago laid in the trump administration in november and so he was right, specter was right. as for the sackler's themselves might dissat

so this was not a deterrence and arlen specter is now but you get this second guilty plea to federal crimes a few months ago, late in the trump administration in november, and so he was write. specter was right. this was not a deconcern. as for the scamming hers themselves, my -- the sacklers themselves, my dissatisfies as a citizen is extensive and another just about the sacklers. you have the gate plea in november that was negotiated, again, going over that's odd the line prosecutors, i report in the book the prosecutors who actually built these case were very unhappy with the outcome that a decision was made at political -- eye hit medical levels of to trump administration there would be a soft touch was the quote i heard for purdue. so they get this guilty plea, say they there's going to be $8 billion in fines which is totally fake number because if you're paying attention you'll know the company is in bankruptcy. if was $8 billion and the sacklers were on the hook you're talking real money. >> host: and number of those articles mention that. >> guest: drives me crazy and people s