i'm pleased to welcome arlo guthrie into the program. he has been a leading part of america for 50 years, and the son of woody guthrie and arlo is in the midst of the latest "run down road" tour. we are delighted that he took time the out of the tour to stop by the studios. it is an honor, sir to, have you on this great program. let me start with this, because i was just -- tickled, when i came across this. so his father, woody, wrote a song called old man trump. >> yes. that trump. >> about his racist landlord fred trump who happened to be, as you know, donald's father. and one of the lines in the song, and i quote, i suppose that old man trump knows just how much racial hate he stirred n up in the blood spot of human hearts when he drawed that color line here at the beach havenle family project. so your father lived in a trump building? >> me, too. that is where i grew up. >> that is is where you grew up. and your father had something to say about old man trump. what do you make of that coincidence all of these years later? >> well, i