excessive fears about one armagedon, all of them proved false, they didn't occur. so in some sense, the rise in the market just gets us back to a meaningful reality. we're up, but i don't think we're extended. we're selling at around 16 times, trailing earnings right now. and market history would suggest that market peaks, the major market peaks are in low 20s. i think we'll continue to have earnings growth over the next few years. and we'll probably have arise further evaluations. it won't be a straight line, indeed, next year, we'll get a correction. we're a long ways from the market which is more vulnerable to a major correction. >> all right, the challenge for investors is finding value in this kind of a market, where can they find value? >> well, i would look -- i would look within this country, first, i would like to be a little tilted offshore, susie, towards the nationinternational markets think the dollar will remain weak favoring the developing markets. here, i kind of like the markets, you want to have stuff tied to the economy, we'll continue to get goo