well, i must say arr armando arnucci, who is really a brilliant, creative guy behind writing "veep," has an uncanny ability to predict. you may have this ability, too, everything that is going to get screwed up in washington. but you know, i think life always imitates art. and in the case of washington, just like groundhog day, we have had a shutdown before. you had the maestro of the previous shutdown, newt gingrich on earlier and we have two parties very polarized. at each other's throats. and no real ability to get their way out of crises when they're so ideologically opposed to each other. >> and as you say we have had many shutdowns, you can blame democrats or republicans. can you remember one who has been at its heart so hard trying to dismantle an established law? >> no, i don't think there is any parallel to this. you know, secretary reich, i think, had something off when he said earlier there was no particular law involved in the previous conflict in the newt gingrich-/clinton standoff. because there was one similarity. the budget was about medicare. the republicans wanted t