racial politics invited folks from eastern europe, greece, armenia, turkey, italy, ireland to sort of fade into whiteness while the u.s. community further separated itself from blackness. >> where going to continue this conversation in just a moment. we need to take a quick break here on the mosaic. >>> good morning a welcome back to mosaic. i'm honored to be your host. we are in the middle of a wonderful conversation with ivana kaufman, the executive director of theof color film initiative. we were talking a lot about the complexity of race and use of color in the jewish community. that whole big landscape. i'm wondering if we think about it as a tactic, why choose philanthropy and the initiative as a philanthropic fund to in some ways articulate our mission and, hopefully, we form change. >> what a great question. when we think about the pathways to leadership in a national communal ecosystem, when we think about the pathways to being able to create programs, to be able to match policies with the people we are trying to serve there has to be some organizational vehicle to make all o