from all accounts now we know that colin powell knew that it was richard armitage.hile, we have a prosecutor, special prosecutor patrick fitzgerald bringing all these people in, some that don't make a lot of money, having to hire lawyers, karl rove is taken to the edge of worrying about being indicted. scooter libby unfairly brought up on charges. and i'm looking at this, saying why didn't these men speak out? that's a legitimate criticism. why didn't colin powell and armitage say no, it was me, i was richard? why didn't they do that? >> that's right. cheney points out something very, very simple in that book. he says a few days after powell learned that armitage, his deputy was the one who leaked valerie plame's name, he sat next to the president of the united states in a cabinet meeting, while the press corp was brought in and barraged him with questions on who was responsible for the leak. the president took that barrage and say i want if get down to the truth. next to him was the man who knew the truth. who knew his own deputy caused this entire crisis and never

armitage did, we wouldn't have gone on for two months. there wouldn't have been a special council appointed by the justice department that spent two years trying to get to the bottom of it, and we wouldn't have had the mess we subsequently had. >> joining me again, valerie plame and her husband, former ambassador joe wilson. it sounds to me colin powell and armitage followed their proper procedure on this. >> well, certainly that's secretary powell's explanation, and i think that's probably accurate from everything i've read. but regrettably, the vice president did not, neither did scooter libby, who was convicted, i like to remind people, on four counts of lying to investigators, perjury, and obstruction of justice. as secretary powell pointed out, had vice president cheney shown a modicum of integrity and had his staff showed a modicum of integrity, there might not have been a need for a special council, and indeed, at that time, there may have been a head that would have rolled without the investigation and that head might have been di

armitage's participation in this. immediately.e called the president's council and told him we had information. the fbi asked us not to share any of this with anybody else, as did mr. gonzalez, if the white house operatives had come forward as readily as mr. armitage had done, we wouldn't have gone on for two months with the fbi trying to find out what happened in the white house. there wouldn't have been a special council appointed by the justice department that spent two years trying to get to the bottom of it, and we wouldn't have had the mess we subsequently had. >> rejoining me again, valerie plame and her husband, former ambassador joe wilson. joe, it sounds to me colin powell and armitage followed their proper procedure on this. >> well, certainly that's secretary powell's explanation, and i think that's probably accurate from everything i've read. regrettably, the vice president did not, neither did scooter libby, who was convicted, i like to remind people, on four counts of lying to federal investigators, perjury, and obs

. >> cameraman matt armitage is shooting the explosion for indiana's news channel. >> all of a suddensmoke started pouring out of the building all at once. that's when i started rolling on it. >> seconds later the building erupts. >> a huge boom. you could feel it, too. you could feel the boom, the noise. you could actually feel the explosion. >> the mushroom cloud is seen more than a mile away. >> it was a big explosion. the fireball, the orange-red fireball that came after it was incredible. >> but you knew that, boy, if anybody that was inside, that would have been not good at all. >> it's so bright, it damages matt's camera. >> it shot out one of my filters in my camera. and then everything after i shot that video, it was all red. >> larry fisher is one of several firefighters injured in the blast. >> i was bleeding all down my face. i looked all bloody. of course, my helmet was off my head. but i thought -- my initial thought was that i was burned. >> fortunately, no employees are inside the foundry when the fire erupts. the fire department believes it's nothing short of a miracl

richard armitage opposed the war in iraq.'t a crime which is why richard armitage wasn't prosecuted. that is out. it is a fact and yet we still have hollywood movies talking about the evil karl rove destroying valerie plane's life by releasing her name and committing a felony. >> host: a recent weeks by ann coulter. j. j.loand mark antony getting divorced and she gets half of his tips from appleby is. ginger in texas. you are on the air with ann coulter. >> caller: hello, the young lady. you stay with that beautiful hair pledge that woman was envious because she doesn't have it. i wanted to say to you you and i are on the same plane. i could talk to you all day. i knew you were going to be on july bearhart show. itunes in just to see you. i want you to comment on how routes -- she is so rude to you. >> guest: she is one of my favorite listeners. she is one of the liberals i like. >> caller: makes no sense when she talks. >> guest: she is a comedian and she is very funny. they are the ones i like because if it is funny i don't

it wasn't a crime because why richard armitage wasn't prosecuted.t is out, yet we still have articles by maureen dowd and hollywood movies and evil karl rove destroying valerie plame's life by committing a felony releasing her name. . . >> caller: i knew you were going to be on the joy behar -- i think her name is -- show, and i tuned in just to see you. i want you to comment on how rude and how -- she is so rude to you -- >> guest: oh, she's one of my favorite liberals. i forgot to mention her as one of the liberals i like. [laughter] >> caller: makes no sense when she talks. >> guest: well, he's a comedian, and i do think she's very funny. you'll see i keep raising liberal comedians as the ones i like because if it's funny, i don't care what the point is. she's funny. and she kind of has, it's a fun show to do because she has a.d.d., so you can never stay on one summit for more than -- subject for more than 30 seconds. i'll start, i'm her straight man, and we'll be whooshed off to something else. but that's her style, and i must say, i mean, she's