i have no problem with arne duncan going to the university of chicago laboratory schools. my problem is when they say that other people's children don't deserve that. now, you can say but it's not realistic. that's fine. you know, hillary clinton's campaigning for women's equality. you could argue that's not realistic. we could say racial equality isn't realistic, but it's an aspirational goal. and as long as we set it as an aspirational goal, then we know what we're working toward. so when i talk to arne duncan, which i have many times, or when i talk to john king, the current secretary of education, or when i talk to forest claypool, the superintendent, ceo, sorry, it's a business now, in chicago and i say but what do we want, they say everybody should have choices. i'm choosing this school. other people are choosing other schools. that's a flat-out hypocritical lie. when they say "choice," they don't mean on the south side of chicago standing next to one high school we'll build the university of chicago laboratory school and parents can choose. they mean you can go to d

i have no problem with arne duncan going to the university of chicago laboratory schools. my problem is when they say that other people's children don't deserve that. now, you can say that it's not realistic. that's fine. you know, hillary clinton's campaigning for women's equality. you could argue that's not realistic. we could say racial equality isn't realistic, but it's an aspirational goal. and as long as we set it as an aspirational goal, then we know what we're working toward. so when i talk to arne duncan, which i have many times, or when i talk to john king, the current secretary of education, or when i talk to forest claypool, the superintendent -- ceo, sorry, it's a business now -- in chicago, and i say but what do we want, they say everybody should have choices. i'm choosing this school. other people are choosing other schools. that's a flat out hypocritical lie. when they say choice, they don't mean on the south side of chicago standing next to -- [inaudible] high school we'll build the university of chicago laboratory school and then parents can choose. they

arne duncan: the fight for educational opportunity and civil rights always has been and always will be inextricably linked. newt gingrich: i agree to work with reverend sharpton because i thought he came out with the most important big breakthrough. that is that learning has to be the number one civil right of the 21st century. brian: another's civil rights education. if president clinton or president trump called you into the oval office and said, if me give me three or four things we can do right away that will improve the education of people in the poverty community, won't what would you tell them? gerard: number one, invest money into teachers and programs that work and we have reach urge research showing exactly how to do that focusing on teachers and support staff in hard to serve classrooms. number two, i would expand public and private choice to include charter sponsors tax , credit scholarships and education savings accounts if we were to expand the opportunity. third, you, as leader of the united states, should raise the expectation that if education is the civil rights issue

to translate back, arun donkey tolman -- arne duncan told me an effective teacher walk on water.not a section on realistic portrayal of teachers that i write about in my book as embattled and sometimes blamed for large social problems which will certainly an element are much bigger than schools themselves. in 1800, before the common schools movement, 90% of american classroom teachers were meant. but when reformers like horace mann wanted to scale up our educational system, they decided to hire only women teachers. why? raising taxes back then was about as unpopular as raising taxes today. so women could be paid back then totally legally half as much as land and so this was a very cost a way to score the american public. in order to raise support for this idea of bringing women into the classroom and this is a controversial idea because it was so considered very scandalous for a middle-class white women to get up in front of a group of children and talk to you like i am today, common school movement reformers resorted to vilifying and attacking male teachers as alcoholics punishm

is arne duncan.e will put that are to back -- back-to-back with newt gingrich. >> the fight for educational opportunity and the fight for civil rights always have been and always will be an extremely linked. -- inextricably linked. >> i agree to work with reverend sharpton because i thought he came up with the most important big breakthrough and that is that learning has to be the number one civil rights of the 21st century. >> another civil rights education. ifs president clinton -- president clinton or president trump called you to be able office and said give me three or four things we can do right away that will improve the education of people in the poverty community, what would you say? >> make sure we invested our money into teachers and programs that work and we have researched that shows how to do that. particularly focusing funds on teachers and on support staff and heart to serve classroom. number two, i would expand public and private choice to include both chargers, doctors, tax credit s

arne duncan: the fight for educational opportunity and the fight for civil rights always has been and always will be inextricably linked. newt bring rich: i agreed to work -- newt gingrich: i agreed to work with reverend sharpton because i thought he came out with the most important big breakthrough. that is that learning has to be the number one civil right of the 21st century. brian: another's civil rights education. if president clinton or president trump called you into the oval office and said, give me three or four things we can o right away that will improve the education of people in the poverty community, what would you tell them? gerard: number one, invest money into teachers and programs that work and we have research showing exactly how to do that focusing on teachers and support staff in hard to serve classrooms. that's number one. number two, i would expand public and private choice to include both charters, vouchers, tax credit scholarships and education savings accounts if we were to expand the opportunity. third, you, as leader of the united states, should raise the e

critiqued something arne duncan said earlier so now i want to give him credit for something else he said. he said -- we cannot fire our way to the top. wheres correct because will the new teachers come from and what systems have we put into place to assure that new teachers will do a better job? another reason we cannot fire our way to success is because research shows that teachers one cavity in the classroom matters. anee researchers conducted 800t year study of 50,004th-graders and fifth-graders. they found that in schools with high teacher turnover where many teachers were quitting their jobs each year, students lost significant amounts of learning in reading and math compared to similar peers in schools with low teacher turnover. students at the high turnover schools lost learning even if their own teacher was not new. to repeat, they lost learning even if their own teacher was if overall even teacher quality at the school remains constant. the affect of teacher turnover crosses classroom walls. while at first counterintuitive, i realized this is common sense because schools are com