we have arnie duncan as the secretary of education.comes from a school district that was an utter disaster. instead of creating efficiency and productivity, we are still running at best a mid 20th century school system in all of the metrics that we use to measure. martha: and yet we spend a lot of money with job training programs that, you know, i guess aren't working, right? >> right. and no one in the industrialized world spends more money per student than we do and we can't breakthrough in our testing of our students. right now people blame unions, administration, parents. we as a nation are not focused on discipline, and what works in our educational ac system, which remains, reading, writing, arithmetic. that applies to business and life. martha: i was talking to jeb bush, he did something in florida where he said we are not going to have social promotion any more. we will not push you from first grade to second grade just because you can't be with your friends any more. can if you can't read you'll have to be held back. if you th