>> (speaking spanish >> altan: d you know a man named aroldo castillo? >> no. >> altan: and so you never had any conversations? you never met aroldo? >> (speaking spanish): >> altan: i'm going to read you what the government says about your relationship.ka >> >> altan: they say, "castillo serrano talked regularly on theb phone with duran, sr. those discussions included the fact that minors were having an easier time getting across the border and that they should therefore focus their ties on teenagers." shat do you say to that? >> (speaking spa >> altan: so y say you did not have any relationship? you don't even know who he is? >> no. >> altan: and you never spoke on the phone with him? >> (speaking spanish): >> altanso you do have a memory, then, of speaking with him at one point on the phone? >> (speaking spanish): >> altan: did trillium know that there were minors working there, do you think? >> (speaking spanish): >> altan: how does it work? do the trillium managers check the plants, or would they be able to see? tell me a little bit. >> (speaking sp