arragon. i want to note that my thinking has gone back and forth on this, which is to say that historically the director of the department of public health has always held that title, duty, and responsibility and that has been true as long as i've been around under dr. cats and ceased to be true when my college mate barbara garcia was not a doctor in the state of california and the chief public health officer has to be a doctor who's licensed in the state. that's when the role became bifurcated. when dr. arragon assumed that position, no one had an idea that covid would hit. we're faced with -- and i don't think there's a right or wrong answer here, with the choice of bringing that responsibility delegated or not under the director of the department of public health or continuing with the bifurcated role. i am totally open to either i hold dr. philip or dr. colfax in high regard. i welcome the colleagues' advice as well. >> chair: thank you, supervisor peskin. i believe dr. colfax is here. you